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The issue to me is that the supers aren't necessarily any "twitchier" than your average athlete. Meaning while they may be stronger, they aren't actually moving their legs that much faster than a professional football player. So the way they would actually run is that the power in each stride would carry them much longer distances than the normal athlete. So while Usain bolt might cover 3-4 feet between each step*, they would be covering 6-8 feet between each step. More bounding between each leap than running. And it's just hard to make that look realistic.

*completely made that distance up for the purpose of the example, so don't jump down my throat if that number is off.

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bluefire579 said:

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Trailer for the last two episodes (with a decent amount of footage we've already seen).

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MooreTrucker said:

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I thought the "vaccine" was a cover for the super soldier serum.

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The Super Solider Serum causes rare blood clots in women???

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MooreTrucker said:

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I disagree to an extent. I watched Wandavision with my wife, who had see some but not nearly all of the MCU movies. She knew who the characters were but that's about it. Definitely not the full interconnections, etc.

She really liked the first couple of episodes for the Dick Van Dyke and Brady Bunch type aspects but didn't get anything out of the Cat Dennings/Jimmy Woo/Monica stuff at all. And she'd checked out by the time we found out about Agatha, and wouldn't have understood it anyway.

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redline248 said:

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Bucky didn't have the same super ego effect like Steve and Red Skull.

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Steve got a super ego after the serum?

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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

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I like this show infinitely more than I liked Wandavision, which at the end of the day, was just an elaborate magic trick. I liked lots of it, and I love Randall Park, but I think most of my desire to watch it came from the fact that there was finally some new content.

Finally go to watch the episode last night. A few thoughts after reading the last few pages of discussion.

1. The guy who plays Battlestar: First I was really impressed with his character when he sides with Sam/Buck to talk to Karli instead of arresting her. But the scene where he and Walker are talking bout Afghanistan and the super soldier serum, that seemed like bad acting to me, and take that with the caveat that I very rarely notice a bad performance. Just not something my brain does well, but he definitely looked like he was just "saying the lines" while Walker was acting.

2. Battlestar's death: I think everyone in that fight was trying to disarm everyone else up to that point. Even with the knives, it wasn't like they were trying to stab someone through the neck or in the heart, so seeing a guy's neck snap shocked the hell out of everyone.

3. I loved Sam using his skills as a counselor to talk to Karli. Really hearkens back to that first scene when Cap goes to visit him at his job in WS.

4. Loved the Dora Milaje showing up and beating the **** out of Walker. Especially when he couldn't get the shield off the table.

5. Glad they showed the blood when Walker killed that guy at the end of the episode. Although I also think that cinched the deal that nobody is going to use the shield after the season. That shield has now been used to murder a guy in cold blood. Walker's actions have tainted it, and with everyone recording it, the whole world sees that shield and thinks murder.

6. I love how inventive they are with Sam's fighting ability with the wings and the jet pack in a closed environment. That's been some of the coolest parts of the show for me.

7. I like Karli as the leader, but I also liked her in Solo. You don't have to be the biggest or the strongest to lead people, especially if by leading all you're really doing is helping them and inspiring them to help others.

8. I'm sure there will be lots of Sam & Bucky vs. Walker fighting at some point, but wouldn't it be great if either Sam or Sharon got Walker to stand down by having Old Man Rogers show up and tell him he's destroying the image of Captain America? Shame him into standing down?

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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

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I like this show infinitely more than I liked Wandavision, which at the end of the day, was just an elaborate magic trick. I liked lots of it, and I love Randall Park, but I think most of my desire to watch it came from the fact that there was finally some new content.

Finally go to watch the episode last night. A few thoughts after reading the last few pages of discussion.

1. The guy who plays Battlestar: First I was really impressed with his character when he sides with Sam/Buck to talk to Karli instead of arresting her. But the scene where he and Walker are talking bout Afghanistan and the super soldier serum, that seemed like bad acting to me, and take that with the caveat that I very rarely notice a bad performance. Just not something my brain does well, but he definitely looked like he was just "saying the lines" while Walker was acting.

2. Battlestar's death: I think everyone in that fight was trying to disarm everyone else up to that point. Even with the knives, it wasn't like they were trying to stab someone through the neck or in the heart, so seeing a guy's neck snap shocked the hell out of everyone.

3. I loved Sam using his skills as a counselor to talk to Karli. Really hearkens back to that first scene when Cap goes to visit him at his job in WS.

4. Loved the Dora Milaje showing up and beating the **** out of Walker. Especially when he couldn't get the shield off the table.

5. Glad they showed the blood when Walker killed that guy at the end of the episode. Although I also think that cinched the deal that nobody is going to use the shield after the season. That shield has now been used to murder a guy in cold blood. Walker's actions have tainted it, and with everyone recording it, the whole world sees that shield and thinks murder.

6. I love how inventive they are with Sam's fighting ability with the wings and the jet pack in a closed environment. That's been some of the coolest parts of the show for me.

7. I like Karli as the leader, but I also liked her in Solo. You don't have to be the biggest or the strongest to lead people, especially if by leading all you're really doing is helping them and inspiring them to help others.

8. I'm sure there will be lots of Sam & Bucky vs. Walker fighting at some point, but wouldn't it be great if either Sam or Sharon got Walker to stand down by having Old Man Rogers show up and tell him he's destroying the image of Captain America? Shame him into standing down?

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redline248 said:

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Oh yeah, I wonder if we get a scene with Walker and his wife/girlfriend dealing with the fallout.

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7. I like Karli as the leader, but I also liked her in Solo. You don't have to be the biggest or the strongest to lead people, especially if by leading all you're really doing is helping them and inspiring them to help others.

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This is what's strange to me: I liked her in Solo but it's not working for me in this. And I readily acknowledge from the first time I saw her in this how similar the roles were.

I like the idea of her because, you're right, you don't need to be the biggest or strongest to lead people. But they haven't really shown her effectively lead anyone yet or why anyone is following her (unless I missed it which is likely the case). Like, why her? I'm totally cool with her being the leader, but I'm not sold or really understand how she became the leader.

I probably missed something though, so any help?

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Have I ever met Chris Evans? I think I have. I don't think I've 'shook his hand' met him, but I think I've walked by him somewhere and made eye contact. That counts as being a stalker, that doesn't count as meeting anybody. But, I guess it would. You just gotta wait until the end of the series and then everybody will be like, 'Oh, wow.'

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