Wasn't the best show and had flaws that have already been stated here, but I thought it was fine. Bucky's story arc was my favorite part of the series.
Some problems are impossible to solve satisfactorily, and no amount of Kumbayah 'just listen to each other' can ever result in a solution that's fair to everybody. The government doesn't have to be evil or incompetent... that's just how it is sometimes. Just because there's a bad outcome to a situation doesn't mean there's a person/group at fault. But the moment you start killing civilians to get your way, you are a villain in my book. Much of Sam's speech fell flat for me.fig96 said:That's a fair point, but I feel like we just needed something more in relation to them.mazag08 said:The problem with that is that it's been done time and time again in the MCU. The big evil government. I actually liked that they just presented them as the unprepared, overworked, rushed, and quick-triggered reactionaries who hadn't thought things completely through due to the absolutely crazy aspect of having half the world re-appear out of thin air.fig96 said:
.If we'd painted the GRC as not a relatively benign organization but one that was actually nefarious and doing things behind the scenes for other purposes, there'd be way more reason to understand where the Flag Smashers were coming from, introduce more shades of gray and maybe even get Sam/Bucky/Sharon involved in exposing that plot (a la Winter Soldier).
That would give Sam far more "I agree with you" context while still not being on board with Karli's methods.
Maybe the GRC isn't truly evil, but we see some by products of their policies affecting innocent people in very negative ways. We got some isolated snippets of people and their various issues after the snap, but if those could have been more directly connected to some misguided policies we'd have a lot more reasons to at least understand the perspective of the underdog..
TCTTS said:
They shot the vast majority of this before Chadwick Boseman died.
AgfromHOU said:
I have an irrational dislike of the actor, and for no good reason to be honest. Just one of those things I guess.
I really like Sam, though.
AgfromHOU said:
There was a black couple in front of me wearing Captain America shirts on opening night. They went nuts when he put the shield on. It was really cool to see.
First a great ending for their favorite character. Then to see him pass the shield to someone that looks like them? So awesome.
To be fair, he did go to Cranbrook - that's a private school!Fat Bib Fortuna said:AgfromHOU said:
I have an irrational dislike of the actor, and for no good reason to be honest. Just one of those things I guess.
I really like Sam, though.
There's your demographic that hates him picking up the shield!
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Also, my wife went from hot for Bucky to hot for Zemo. So, guys, there is hope for all of us.
I had the same thought with WandaVision but in this instance, whenever Dir Hayward introduced himself as "Director Hayward", someone would say "Acting Director"Max Power said:
When Sam says "I'm Captain America" and every subsequent mention of Captain America I was really hoping to hear Negasonic Teenage Warhead say "Trainee" but I guess this isn't Deadpool 2.