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**The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Discussion Thread**

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Watched that video yesterday and was very surprised when he said that at the end. All but confirmed it really.
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

Meanwhile, Peter Sciretta took to the /Film podcast to tease "a big actor who hasn't been named in the series ... someone we didn't know is going to be in the series and is an award-winning actor/actress" playing an "exciting Marvel Comics character" in this week's fifth episode.
Vision as Power Broker confirmed.
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CubbieAggie said:

Fat Bib Fortuna said:

Meanwhile, Peter Sciretta took to the /Film podcast to tease "a big actor who hasn't been named in the series ... someone we didn't know is going to be in the series and is an award-winning actor/actress" playing an "exciting Marvel Comics character" in this week's fifth episode.
Vision as Power Broker confirmed.


I bet it is white vision and not the vision of color
Fat Bib Fortuna
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I want a jazzy tune that explains it was Power Broker All Along

And I killed Nagel too!
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

I want a jazzy tune that explains it was Power Broker All Along

And I killed Nagel too!


Welp, and now that's stuck in my head. Again.
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Farmer1906 said:

I'm not sure I would describe it as woke, but I also do not see them taking away the shield. It's played too important of a role in the MCU.

Perhaps in the end it's decided it's not so much the shield but the man behind it that matters most.
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Baba Ganoush said:

Farmer1906 said:

I'm not sure I would describe it as woke, but I also do not see them taking away the shield. It's played too important of a role in the MCU.

Perhaps in the end it's decided it's not so much the shield but the man behind it that matters most.
Which would then validate what anyone who supports the 2A states, that it's not the gun but the man behind it.
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Today.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Game-changing theory: Sam's TT faked her own death and she's the power broker.
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

Game-changing theory: Sam's TT faked her own death and she's the power broker.
NOBODY saw that coming!!
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TT is Mephisto confirmed!
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Beat40 said:

Today.

Do you live in the future?
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FincAg said:

Beat40 said:

Today.

Do you live in the future?
I want some lotto numbers
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FincAg said:

Beat40 said:

Today.

Do you live in the future?


Me and old man Steve.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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How about Nick Fury as the power broker? He would clearly want to be in control of the super soldier serum. He reappears after getting blipped and the US government has moved on and would probably try and 'retire him' since they've built up SWORD, so he would start over in some other part of the world? He says to Spider-Man in FFH that he used to know everything and now he knows nothing.
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Wasn't that not Nick Fury lol
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Sharon Carter can have my super soldier serum.
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But that was a Skrull pretending to be Fury.

But yeah Fury is a real wild card these days. Seemingly he's in space? Seemingly unconnected to Sword? I feel like we may not get any answers in that regard until Secret Invasion next year.
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

How about Nick Fury as the power broker? He would clearly want to be in control of the super soldier serum. He reappears after getting blipped and the US government has moved on and would probably try and 'retire him' since they've built up SWORD, so he would start over in some other part of the world? He says to Spider-Man in FFH that he used to know everything and now he knows nothing.
It sounds like the Power Broke has been around for some time and didn't take a 5 year break.

Also, that wasn't Nick Fury in FFH.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Starting to contemplate the 2 am stay up and watch. Which I've previously only done for mando
Damn you john walker.
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What I have observed from this show is how an audience can be dooped by the "packaging/personality" of a person.

1. Bucky/James/Winter Solider/White Wolf- The guy with three nicknames is incredulous when Lemar calls himsself Battlestar. So much so, that he rudely gets out of the truck and walks away. Then he breaks a mass murderer out of jail who then proceeds to cause mayhem and death in Madripoor.

2. Sam- The guy that unnecessarily blew up a helicopter in episode 1 on a rescue mission. He then thought he could talk down a confirmed murderer super-soldier revolutionary into what? Giving herself up for arrest? Sam for some reason thinks that Algerian helicopter pilots for hire needs to die but not a "kid" that already murdered and planning to do worse.

3. John Walker- Offered at least twice to team up with Sam and Bucky. Assisted in the first convoy skirmish against the flag smashers. Bailed Bucky out of jail. Walker was right about Karli, she needed to be arrested, not counseled. The only guy he killed was out of a moment of rage/grief. 30 seconds earlier the guy was holding him in a plot for Karli to stab him to death.

John Walker objectively has been right and a team player but because of personality the audience is supposed to hate him. John Walker is my Captain America as the smartest tactical leader of the show. I don't blame him for taking the shield after the DoD offered it to him and believed in him.
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You probably root for Darth Vader, too, because after all Luke and Leia and the rest are the Rebel Alliance.
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Batzarro said:



3. John Walker- Offered at least twice to team up with Sam and Bucky. Assisted in the first convoy skirmish against the flag smashers. Bailed Bucky out of jail. Walker was right about Karli, she needed to be arrested, not counseled. The only guy he killed was out of a moment of rage/grief. 30 seconds earlier the guy was holding him in a plot for Karli to stab him to death.


If your best friend gave everything to save your life, and 6 months later a new guy showed up wearing your best friend's clothes and saying, "Hey guess what! I'm your new best friend! I'm wearing his clothes and I am even using his name!" what would you do?
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

Batzarro said:



3. John Walker- Offered at least twice to team up with Sam and Bucky. Assisted in the first convoy skirmish against the flag smashers. Bailed Bucky out of jail. Walker was right about Karli, she needed to be arrested, not counseled. The only guy he killed was out of a moment of rage/grief. 30 seconds earlier the guy was holding him in a plot for Karli to stab him to death.


If your best friend gave everything to save your life, and 6 months later a new guy showed up wearing your best friend's clothes and saying, "Hey guess what! I'm your new best friend! I'm wearing his clothes and I am even using his name!" what would you do?
call top bunk!
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If your best friend gave everything to save your life, and 6 months later a new guy showed up wearing your best friend's clothes and saying, "Hey guess what! I'm your new best friend! I'm wearing his clothes and I am even using his name!" what would you do?


Decay
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Most impressive
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This guy is definitely #teamironman in Civil War
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TexasAggie_02 said:

TT is Mephisto confirmed!


TT > Lubbock > sandstorms > dirty floors > dirt devil > mephisto
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The more I read, the more it sounds like episode five is, indeed, a must-watch-live event. Got my second serum shot of Moderna yesterday, had chills, sweats, and aches all night long, hardly slept, but must stay up and power through...
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redline248 said:

This guy is definitely #teamironman in Civil War


True.
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Batzarro said:

redline248 said:

This guy is definitely #teamironman in Civil War


True.


Hey, General Ross!
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When my baby wakes up at 4 am, I'll be watching this instead of going back to bed. About to turn on last weeks episode to get ready.
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Also Bucky is practically a t-sip for all intents and purposes:

1. Recovering communist.
2. Spent a summer in Africa to "find himself"
3. Loves "retro" '40s music.
4. Coulda smashed with the waitress but left for emo reasons.
5. Rallies for criminal justice reform / breaks people out of jail.
6. Thinks Brooklyn is cool.
7. Court mandated therapy.
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Fat Bib Fortuna said:

Batzarro said:



3. John Walker- Offered at least twice to team up with Sam and Bucky. Assisted in the first convoy skirmish against the flag smashers. Bailed Bucky out of jail. Walker was right about Karli, she needed to be arrested, not counseled. The only guy he killed was out of a moment of rage/grief. 30 seconds earlier the guy was holding him in a plot for Karli to stab him to death.


If your best friend gave everything to save your life, and 6 months later a new guy showed up wearing your best friend's clothes and saying, "Hey guess what! I'm your new best friend! I'm wearing his clothes and I am even using his name!" what would you do?


If your best friend retires and a new guy is hired by the DoD to take his place, wouldn't you show professionalism to at least give the guy a shot- especially if he bails you out of jail? Or would you break out a murderer from jail the next day?
 
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