***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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Explosions across Tel Aviv....
Dan Scott
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This is last year
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Dan Scott said:

This is last year


I believe so
ErnestEndeavor
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I saw some reports of some interceptions in the last 10 to 15 minutes, but nothing like what's being described. I'm trying really hard but I cannot find corroboration of a massive ongoing Iranian missile strike.
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Never mind you figured it out. We've all done stuff like that here. No big deal. I'm happy with that not being a reality.
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Kick em when their Up
Kick em when their down.

Don Henleys song Dirty Laundry should be the song to play for this war.
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What's being confirmed more and more now is that Iran has been successful in taking out several of our radars in the region including some of the THAAD radars. We don't have a lot of those. They are expensive and take a long time to build.

Obviously nothing's been publicly confirmed by the DoD but the satellite imagery is out.

Likely drone attacks, most likely some sort of low flying stealthy drone. I can guarantee you we've got a lot of people trying to figure out how to mitigate.
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Azerbaijan thrwarts attack in Israel embassy in their country.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-889118
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The UK Navy is in very bad shape & it's really sad!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15613019/Nelson-spinning-grave-French-protect-UK-Cyprus-Royal-Navy.html



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And a lot of rumors now circulating it as Azerbaijan may become directly involved. They are supported by Israel and Turkey, despite Israel and Turkey hating each other. Armenia, Iran, and Russia have good relationships but the US is probably more on the side of Armenia in that fight.

What a weird world we live in.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

What's being confirmed more and more now is that Iran has been successful in taking out several of our radars in the region including some of the THAAD radars. We don't have a lot of those. They are expensive and take a long time to build.

Obviously nothing's been publicly confirmed by the DoD but the satellite imagery is out.

Likely drone attacks, most likely some sort of low flying stealthy drone. I can guarantee you we've got a lot of people trying to figure out how to mitigate.

I mean, if someone more amenable to the US ends up in power in Iran, the need for having said expensive radar systems in the region drops drastically.
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Pooh-ah95_ESL said:

docb said:

If Iran were smart they'd launch those missiles at refineries in the region. They're not going to beat us or Israel head to head. The only way is for them to wait us out and inflict as much economic damage as possible. I hope we have thought of this. And countering massive waves of drones targeting the same industry.


Honest question, who related to the regime is going to be left if their plan is to wait this out? I don't know who takes power next but I find it unlikely to be anyone related to the past regime. I would anticipate the power shift is going to start 50 years of pent up reprisal killings.


I don't know the answer to that but I'm sure there are plenty of bad players left in Iran. I'm mainly just comparing how hard it was for Israel to finally clear out Gaza and that is a small piece of land. I'm afraid there will have to be boots on the ground to ultimately clear it out. I'm not a fan of sending US boots on the ground to Iran. Let Israel do it.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

And a lot of rumors now circulating it as Azerbaijan may become directly involved. They are supported by Israel and Turkey, despite Israel and Turkey hating each other. Armenia, Iran, and Russia have good relationships but the US is probably more on the side of Armenia in that fight.

What a weird world we live in.


How big of a military do they have?
ErnestEndeavor
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Moving forward it's going to be figuring out the vulnerabilities and gaps in defense, particularly for the east Asian region. If the Iranians can take them out then so can the Chinese and Norks. Would not shock me if it was some sort of co-developed or donated munition from China.

At the time it does leave us less capable for missile defense in the region for the current conflict. Obviously we have satellites and other systems but not having these radars online could inhibit future effectiveness of interceptions.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

What's being confirmed more and more now is that Iran has been successful in taking out several of our radars in the region including some of the THAAD radars. We don't have a lot of those. They are expensive and take a long time to build.

Obviously nothing's been publicly confirmed by the DoD but the satellite imagery is out.

Likely drone attacks, most likely some sort of low flying stealthy drone. I can guarantee you we've got a lot of people trying to figure out how to mitigate.


Need to invest in something like this for stationary high value stuff like those radars

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ErnestEndeavor said:




Nuts the Israelis are relentless!
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That is such an unrelated situation…there is no comparison. There was no structure to Hamas like there is in Iran and Israel and the US keep taking out leadership.
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Reproduce the Vietnam Douglas-EA-1E-Skyraider. Would be a outstanding drone killer
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ErnestEndeavor
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Russia and, at least tokenly the US, have supported Armenia. Israel and Turkey support Azerbaijan. Iran supports Armenia to the extent that they hate Azerbaijan as Iran has always viewed Azerbaijan is a threat to their north due to the significant Azerbaijani minority in Northern Iran. The Armenia/Azerbaijan conflicts over the last few decades have been a product of the global fingers protruding in the region.

If Azerbaijan enters the conflict it could get a bit more complicated. I don't think Turkey would get involved either way. Erdogon dies not want to support Israel or be seen by their public as supporting Israel.
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We will see
The Fall Guy
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Russia and, at least tokenly the US, have supported Armenia. Israel and Turkey support Azerbaijan. Iran supports Armenia to the extent that they hate Azerbaijan as Iran has always viewed Azerbaijan is a threat to their north due to the significant Azerbaijani minority in Northern Iran. The Armenia/Azerbaijan conflicts over the last few decades have been a product of the global fingers protruding in the region.

If Azerbaijan enters the conflict it could get a bit more complicated. I don't think Turkey would get involved either way. Erdogon dies not want to support Israel or be seen by their public as supporting Israel.


Thank you for the understanding
ErnestEndeavor
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Trust me, no one really understands it.
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Looks like the large fires in Tehran are at the airport.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/footage-shows-strikes-larges-fires-at-tehran-airport-after-idf-announcement-of-strikes/
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docb said:

Pooh-ah95_ESL said:

docb said:

If Iran were smart they'd launch those missiles at refineries in the region. They're not going to beat us or Israel head to head. The only way is for them to wait us out and inflict as much economic damage as possible. I hope we have thought of this. And countering massive waves of drones targeting the same industry.


Honest question, who related to the regime is going to be left if their plan is to wait this out? I don't know who takes power next but I find it unlikely to be anyone related to the past regime. I would anticipate the power shift is going to start 50 years of pent up reprisal killings.


I don't know the answer to that but I'm sure there are plenty of bad players left in Iran. I'm mainly just comparing how hard it was for Israel to finally clear out Gaza and that is a small piece of land. I'm afraid there will have to be boots on the ground to ultimately clear it out. I'm not a fan of sending US boots on the ground to Iran. Let Israel do it.

The difference is that Gaza had a huge percentage of the population that supported Hamas and would not lift a finger to oppose them. Iran has a huge portion of the population that despises the Islamic Republic and will gladly work to take them out if we even the playing field a bit for them.
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I hope so. I just don't want to see a bunch of our soldiers getting killed over this.
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Gaeilge said:



UK? Wouldn't trust that too much.
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I wonder why we can't figure out how to spoil the fuel that is in these drones and missiles. Keep them from launching in the first place.
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The Fall Guy said:



So much for the rats making a run for it.
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DCPD158 said:

The Fall Guy said:



So much for the rats making a run for it.

I think we are at the point now where some of the target set is direct messaging to the leadership.
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Bloomberg is reporting it too.

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I saw some reports they all want to stop the war and are starting to blame Israel for being the first to bomb.
 
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