*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)

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bonfarr said:

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I saw a clip of Elliot Page in a suit signing autographs and posing for pictures with fans and it was actually pretty sad. She has no clue how to project being a man but you can tell she is 'all in' on desperately trying. She looks so unnatural out there.

She kind of sticks her arms out further from her body while walking trying to appear more "manly", but she has the quick and twitchy movements of a small boy...or like a female trying to pretend to be a man but who has no clue how to do so. Almost looked like Charlie Chaplin or something, it was pretty awkward. I hope she finds out how to be a man someday...seems like a pretty tall task...GL with that.

All that to say, I hope her portrayal of a man in this film...a hardened Greek warrior at that...is more realistic than her real life one. Casting a black woman to play an Ancient Greek character is actually LESS ridiculous than this casting decision imo. I can see Nolan going with a creepy/scary vibe for her character, as opposed to an aggressive/masculine one, and pulling off though, bc he's a cinematic genius. They will definitely have to alter her voice and use some type of CGI though to pull it off.


Eliot Page has a good shot to resurrect his career if they ever reboot Lord of the Rings. Excellent Hobbit potential.

Isn't the Odyssey role something of a sniveling soldier that sells out the Trojans similar to the hunchback in 300? I never read the Odyssey so don't know how that character is described but may not be a mighty warrior.

Nope. Sinon was cousin to Odysseus. The lore was that Sinon fought alongside Odysseus throughout the Trojan war then infiltrated Troy by surrendering to the Trojan army claiming he had deserted. He then aided the Greeks entering the city for the sack of Troy. He basically carried out a suicide mission for the Greeks.
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Lathspell said:

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You should give The Prestige a chance. That's a fantastic film. Just watched it again last year for first time since it came out.

It always felt wild to me that The Prestige and The Illusionist came out at almost the same time. No movies centered on magic for years and then 2 with big time actors at nearly the same time. For the record, I enjoyed both.

Fairly common in the industry. I don't know much about the backroom baseball of it all, but doesn't it have to do with scripts circulating among the studios. One gets the rights to the script most want so another gets a script with a similar subject, then they release them around the same time?

There are many examples of this.


There an entire Wikipedia page about this phenomenon
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It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.
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Urban Ag said:

bonfarr said:

Hardcore Greg said:

I saw a clip of Elliot Page in a suit signing autographs and posing for pictures with fans and it was actually pretty sad. She has no clue how to project being a man but you can tell she is 'all in' on desperately trying. She looks so unnatural out there.

She kind of sticks her arms out further from her body while walking trying to appear more "manly", but she has the quick and twitchy movements of a small boy...or like a female trying to pretend to be a man but who has no clue how to do so. Almost looked like Charlie Chaplin or something, it was pretty awkward. I hope she finds out how to be a man someday...seems like a pretty tall task...GL with that.

All that to say, I hope her portrayal of a man in this film...a hardened Greek warrior at that...is more realistic than her real life one. Casting a black woman to play an Ancient Greek character is actually LESS ridiculous than this casting decision imo. I can see Nolan going with a creepy/scary vibe for her character, as opposed to an aggressive/masculine one, and pulling off though, bc he's a cinematic genius. They will definitely have to alter her voice and use some type of CGI though to pull it off.


Eliot Page has a good shot to resurrect his career if they ever reboot Lord of the Rings. Excellent Hobbit potential.

Isn't the Odyssey role something of a sniveling soldier that sells out the Trojans similar to the hunchback in 300? I never read the Odyssey so don't know how that character is described but may not be a mighty warrior.

Nope. Sinon was cousin to Odysseus. The lore was that Sinon fought alongside Odysseus throughout the Trojan war then infiltrated Troy by surrendering to the Trojan army claiming he had deserted. He then aided the Greeks entering the city for the sack of Troy. He basically carried out a suicide mission for the Greeks.

Also his story isn't from Homer. Sinon only appears in the Aenied
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Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.
Tombstone and Wyatt Earp
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.

Tombstone and Wyatt Earp

Top Gun and Iron Eagle.
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Peter Piper said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.

Tombstone and Wyatt Earp

Top Gun and Iron Eagle.


Volcano and Dante's Peak
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.
Tombstone and Wyatt Earp


There were all sorts of dirty dealings with Tombstone and Wyatt Earp. Costner was originally tabbed to do Tombstone but wanted to focus on Earp's personal life more than the action shoot out so he pulled out of the project. When it was recast with Russell he moved on to his own project and he tried to block production and release of Tombstone. Tombstone producers rented out all of the western costumes in Hollywood to prevent Costner from filming which delayed their production by months while they tried to source costumes from Europe.

End result was a classic film that everyone quotes and another that no one remembers.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/tombstone-wyatt-earp-movies/
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Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.

That's a good one! Not sure I noticed as much at the time because we were being flooded with natural disaster movies for a couple years there
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That's funny because I like Costner's more for the deep dive into the character. Tombstone is quotable, but there are a number of good quotes in Wyatt Earp as well.
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Politics board started a thread and Forum 13 catching hands in the first couple of comments.
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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

Politics board started a thread and Forum 13 catching hands in the first couple of comments.

honestly it's probably a better place for it at this point. Maybe start a new one here after it comes out if people just want actual reviews from posters.
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TCTTS said:



Elliot Page was forced to live in a woman's body for decades, I'd rather hear what he thinks of its depiction of PTSD.
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Spoiler Alert: she still lives in a woman's body

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TXAG 05 said:

Peter Piper said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Bruce Almighty said:

It happened with Armageddon and Deep Impact.

Tombstone and Wyatt Earp

Top Gun and Iron Eagle.


Volcano and Dante's Peak
Major League and Bull Durham
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Olympus Has Fallen and White House Down

Churchill and Darkest Hour
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Lathspell said:

agdoc2001 said:

YouBet said:

You should give The Prestige a chance. That's a fantastic film. Just watched it again last year for first time since it came out.

It always felt wild to me that The Prestige and The Illusionist came out at almost the same time. No movies centered on magic for years and then 2 with big time actors at nearly the same time. For the record, I enjoyed both.

Fairly common in the industry. I don't know much about the backroom baseball of it all, but doesn't it have to do with scripts circulating among the studios. One gets the rights to the script most want so another gets a script with a similar subject, then they release them around the same time?

There are many examples of this.

Independence Day wanted to beat Mars Attacks and forced Mars Attacks to push back nearly half a year, just because they were both alien movies.
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Anyone think we'll get Toby Keith's "that's my house" playing when Odysseus gets home?



That would be sooooo subversive

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I'll give it to Nolan, more people are talking about this film than any previous film he's made.

Side note, I'll just bootleg it, like I do any movie in this day and age.
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The Ex Officio Director said:

I'll give it to Nolan, more people are talking about this film than any previous film he's made.

Side note, I'll just bootleg it, like I do any movie in this day of age.

I love when people get idioms wrong.
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Lathspell said:

The Ex Officio Director said:

I'll give it to Nolan, more people are talking about this film than any previous film he's made.

Side note, I'll just bootleg it, like I do any movie in this day of age.

I love when people get idioms wrong.

Forgive me, shall I be flogged or hanged.
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I'm sure he could care less.
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Lol ok
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hunter2012 said:




Based on the rest of her tweets, this young lady is barely literate, appears to be obsessed with Love Island, and thinks Argentina defeated Egypt in the World cup due to……..white supremacy. I think her review carries less weight than the ones TCTTS posted.
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Rigs said:

You realize that every single example you provided was based on a non-fiction story.

And that The Odyssey is a completely fictional tale.

Like you realize that, right?

Right?

So is The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. So what?
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Apache said:

I'm sure he could care less.

I see you!
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So is The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. So what?
Uh, that they shouldn't have been "required" to hold a movie premiere in St.Petersburg Missouri….
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The first few trailers I saw, the costumes kind of reminded me of stuff you'd see in Xena.
 
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