Arsenal 2021-2022 Thread

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At least it wasn't postponed until Salah and Mane will be back
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Ag Since 83 said:

At least it wasn't postponed until Salah and Mane will be back


Just wait…this is our 2 part plan
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This is Naby Keita erasure!
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Remind me again what happened in the FA Cup when Aston Villa didn't have enough 1st team players? It was postponed too, right? Right?
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Man Auba is not having a good time. Just tested positive ahead of AFCON
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Yeah… I remember being frustrated with our opponents getting games rescheduled way back in December 2021… then the Rona came for us.
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We'll be wearing all white on Sunday against Forest



AMN to Roma on 6 month loan done.

We possibly put a huge bid for Vlahovic, but (you may of heard this before) he prefers Juventus.

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I question the legitimacy of the Vlahovic offer. A month or so back Charles Watts said that he was hearing we had moved on. Nothing has changed with Vlahovic so why would we be trying again?
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I remember that, but Ornstein came out today and said we're pushing hard. I'm not sold on spending that much on a 21 year old. I think its steep
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Agreed. I'm also not 100% convinced that he fits our team. I got bored yesterday and watched a bunch of video of the various ST I see linked to us in the media or message board wishful thinking. Posted this on another board but below is my assessment from those videos. Tried to find stuff that was more than just goal compilations...

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Dusan Vlahovic - I can see why we would be interested. Despite many of his goals coming from PKs, he does appear to be a good finisher and I see a good bit of dropping deep and providing linkup play similar to Laca. My biggest concern in comparison to the other ST is that despite his size (6'3") he doesn't seem to ever challenge for balls in the air. With the exception of the lack of aerial highlights, he strikes me as a faster OG.

Jonathan David - While I think he has a good bit of upside, I am very skeptical of his fit for Arteta. What I see in the videos I watched is a better version Nketiah. I see strong pressing, good finishing, positioning & dribbling. What I don't see is link/hold up play, runs in behind and aerial ability. Don't think he would be right for us in a single ST setup. Could see him as a scoring W or as a ST in a 4-4-2.

Alexander Isak - Lot to like in his video. I see excellent speed & dribbling, good aerial ability & positioning and some solid finishing. Tends to drift wide (particularly left) like PEA and scores some very nice curlers and shots from outside of the box that look like something you would expect from Martinelli or Saka but then you see him get into a good position in the box and miss a shot (hit the GK, bounce it over the bar, etc...) that most would expect a top ST to make. There are highlights of link/hold up play and of him coming deep to get the ball but nothing of him pressing. Is that him, the manager or video editor? My concerns... needs work on his finishing to become world class and despite his size he doesn't seem physical. Will he get pushed around in the EPL?

Arthur Cabral - Playing in a weaker league but looks like the total package. Not as big/tall as Vlahovic or Isak but bigger than Laca/David. Shows speed, strength, finishing (with both feet), positioning, hold up play & aerial ability. Only thing I didn't see in the highlights is pressing but like mentioned with other players that could be tactics or editing as well.

Darwin Nunez - Strikes me as being very similar to David but with more size. His videos show good speed, dribbling, finishing, positioning & pressing. Not a lot of aerial highlights but definitely more than David or Vlahovic and looks very natural in those highlights. Right now he looks very much like a scoring winger or 4-4-2 ST. Hard to explain but there is a little something different (vs David) that I see in his game that makes me feel like he could adjust to being a ST in Arteta's system.

Youssef En-Nesyri - Has had some injury issues this season and has only played in 10 matches. Decent amount of film available but none of it that I watched showed hold up play or pressing. What I did see reminds me of a bigger & faster Laca.

Ivan Toney - Gets mentioned quite a bit on other boards. Numbers this season aren't great but Brentford as a team isn't exactly scoring much either. From what I have read & seen they have an issue with overall tactics/personnel that are causing their issues. Watching his video and reading info from fans, I see a bigger, faster, stronger Laca. I see hold up play, pressing, coming deep to get the ball, attempts at setting up wingers, etc... I see him doing all the little things that Laca is doing for us right now. I see good aerial ability and decent finishing. I think if he was already on our roster right now he would likely be giving Laca very good competition for the starting spot and could likely beat him out because of his size, speed & aerial ability. That said, I'm not sure his finishing is good enough to warrant the money that Brentford are rumored to want. Think there are better finishers on this list that could be had for the same or less money. If we had UCL next season, Toney would be an amazing #2 to play in cup games and lessor EPL games so that our #1 is fresh for the bigger games and UCL.

Ollie Watkins - Quite possibly the best dribbler on this list. Comes deep to get the ball and moves the ball forward via dribbling very well. Shows some things that make me think he could be good with link/hold up play but I don't see Villa doing much of that in their scheme. Not sure if his finishing is good enough to lead the line for team with top 4 aspirations.

Dominic Calvert-Lewan - Exceptional aerial ability. Big, strong and solid speed. Capable of link/hold up play but his biggest strength is definitely as the recipient of the final ball in the box. Most pure target man in the list.

Patrik Schick - Watched him play a few games for Leipzig. Didn't score much for them but saw him doing what Laca is doing now for us. Often doing the dirty work to help make Werner look better. Watching his video from Leverkusen and he looks like more of a target man. Basically OG with more speed and better dribbling. Basically, He looks like a guy that could do numerous things for us. Most everyone in this list is faster than him but he is actually a very good dribbler in tight spaces.
I think it is highly likely that PEA & Eddie are gone in Jan. Laca has been playing well but A) we need 2 ST on the roster and B) if it were me I would not want to be rebuilding the entire ST room in the summer. Since we have Laca as a 6 month safety net my inclination would be going after a cheaper option right now and then in the summer either snag a cheaper backup (assuming the Jan transfer proved ready) or splash the cash on a bigger name. Based on what I saw and the rumored costs of each player, I would lean towards Cabral or Nunez in Jan. Very tempted by David & Schick. I think Schick may be a little too expensive for my stated goal. David's numbers in FBRef indicate that he is better than Laca in link up play but in the videos I saw there was very little of that and I can't help but wonder if those link up numbers would translate to a single ST setup vs the 4-4-2 they are playing now.
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No Xhaka or ESR in the squad today
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Charlie Patino starts
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Hopefully this isn't close because I'd love to get a chance to see Salah and Hutchinson
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Xhaka and Balogun have Covid. ESR and Tomiyasu are out with tight muscles
Ag Since 83
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Who's ready for a day of not being able to see any numbers from afar?
Ag Since 83
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If we advance, Leicester City at home
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Of all the lower league competition, we land the biggest draw of the next round
Ag Since 83
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To be fair we did get Wimbledon and Sunderland at home in the League Cup
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We will possibly still be short AFCON players for the next round. Can't play the kids against a side like Leicester so that's more fatigue on the first team
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Yikes. These kits.
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Can't hate the icy whites
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Nuno shooting at the wrong goal
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Damn Nuno Tavares getting subbed in the first half
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Also if Xhaka is the one tugging that shirt its a penalty
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wangus12 said:

Damn Nuno Tavares getting subbed in the first half
Certainly doesn't look injured - must be tactical. Aside from that shot on his own goal, he hasn't appeared to have done anything glaringly wrong. Harsh.
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I can see IFAB adding a numbers clearly visible rule
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Decent half except for not putting anything on net. Test the keeper! Holding and White have kept things quiet in back.
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The end product is too dependent on crosses into crowded spaces right now.

Best chance was probably Sambi's deflected shot. And Nuno's own goal attempt
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I thought it was harsh as well, but our shape does look better with Tierney. Definitely tactical.
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It might be the way Forest is set up, but we didn't see any of those forward runs that I think are Nuno's strengths

Very nice counter by Forest leading to a good save just now
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Getting out played by Forest. Both on technical skill and and pure physicality.
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And Eddie misses a huge chance and doesn't even hit the target
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wangus12 said:

I thought it was harsh as well, but our shape does look better with Tierney. Definitely tactical.
A little, but is it worth embarrassing and creating a rift with yet another player? It wasn't exactly an Eboue vs Wigan-esque display - at least he didn't tackle his own player.
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100% we're gonna go to ET and have to play more minutes with a depleted squad in what is a very tough week
 
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