Arsenal 2021-2022 Thread

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Thanks.

And also no surprise that group didn't get called out like they should.
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A nearly impossible 10 false positives. Statistically Norwich has a better chance of winning the PL than Pool had of 10 false positives.
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Ornstein saying that since the postponement, another positive test has occurred within the squad (based on testing this morning). So whichever player is almost definitely out Thursday.

Thursday's lineup could be anything from very strong to the point of making the postponement farcical to as scary as tomorrow's lineup would have been

I do wonder if Odegaard had been injured instead of Covid positive, would the league have ruled any differently
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FWIW, Burnley had they're match postponed yesterday for Covid AND injuries combined.
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Lol

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/dusan-vlahovic-arsenal-transfer-arteta-25956187
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I think it's funny how siloed our attention for media coverage of league issues is. Game postponements are a great example. Everyone thinks their team is the only one criticized for asking for a postponement and every other club skates by without a word. If you go back and look, just about every team who's asked for a postponement has been raked through the coals by at least some of the media… but we all mostly follow our own team's media contingent so we only hear a fraction of the coverage from a limited perspective.

And the LFC fallout has been interesting. I'm not going to excuse our motivations or actions, but you'd be hard pressed to find out anything about any test results from any of the other clubs who asked for postponements previously and you damned well won't see anyone make mention of them from here on out. Klopp tends to talk more than most and it burned him/the club this time.

So yeah, this is the bed the league has made this year - they don't mandate vaccines and they don't control any aspect of testing or reporting. That's all up to the teams and then they report what they want when they want. Zero transparency.
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I 100% agree. We're all biased to our teams. Its the same reason we all think A&M gets terrible calls in football. Arsenal want their turn because Covid already cost us once and the league refused to postpone the Brentford match to start the year when we had 5-6 starters out with Covid. Instead we were told to play reserve players and a u23 kid led the line away from home in his first match.

The league should have set the the rules to only be due to high covid numbers without regard for injuries or international duty. Even then its a fine line. Rule has to go.

You really can't blame Liverpool or us for that matter for taking advantage of poorly written rules to make sure they have stronger squads for big games like Cup semi's or a 6 pointer in a tight race for top 4. I don't think most fans like it and they have to do away with the rule at the end of the year.

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Sucks it went this way but if there's a time to do it, this is the time. The next few fixtures determine if we're still in the running for some silverware and if we stay atop Spuds for 4th on the table. Would be ideal to pursue both of those with a kind of intact roster.
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wangus12 said:

I 100% agree. We're all biased to our teams. Its the same reason we all think A&M gets terrible calls in football. Arsenal want their turn because Covid already cost us once and the league refused to postpone the Brentford match to start the year when we had 5-6 starters out with Covid. Instead we were told to play reserve players and a u23 kid led the line away from home in his first match.

The league should have set the the rules to only be due to high covid numbers without regard for injuries or international duty. Even then its a fine line. Rule has to go.

You really can't blame Liverpool or us for that matter for taking advantage of poorly written rules to make sure they have stronger squads for big games like Cup semi's or a 6 pointer in a tight race for top 4. I don't think most fans like it and they have to do away with the rule at the end of the year.




They should have never added the rule midseason in the first place.
chjoak
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Gazetta in Italy is claiming that Arthur will not be allowed to leave in Jan
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Sounds like we may drop some cash on Djed Spence, the RB from Middlesborough who is on loan to Nottingham Forrest and looked good in our FA Cup Tie
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That has to be a joke right. Let's send our best midfielder so we can have the one that rides the bench for y'all. Typical Italian **** clubs
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One of the replies to that is talking about sending them Kola for Dybala
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PEA being "returned" to Arsenal...

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Got covid before tournament, has potential complication (heart lesions), when he is supposed to be recovering he went out and got drunk and tried to bring girls back to the hotel.

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  • I learned from the Gabonese Federation that there are two reasons for the decision to return both Aubameyang to Arsenal and Mario Lemina to Nice, the first reason related to the complications of the Corona virus and the desire of their clubs to reassure them, and the second reason relates to a quarrel with hotel security in Cameroon due to taking girls
  • Aubameyang, Mario Lemina, assistant coach in the national team left the residence hotel yesterday during the team's training without permission, the trio are not participating in the training due to the complications of Corona, the team officials did not manage to reach them because their phones were turned off, but in the early hours of the day they returned to the hotel and were drunk
  • There were girls with them. The hotel security refused the girls entry because they were not authorized to enter. The trio quarreled with the hotel security, who informed the officials of the national team mission and submitted a report to the CAF because of what happened.
  • Immediately, the Gabonese federation, in coordination with the national team coach, Patrice Nouveau, quickly agreed to the request of Arsenal and Nice to leave the duo, after they were scheduled to travel on Wednesday, but Patrice Nouveau demanded their travel today and permanently exclude them from the tournament.
  • In the same context, I learned from a source from the Confederation of African Football that they are waiting for clarification in the coming hours from the Gabonese Federation due to the hotel management filing a formal complaint against the team's delegation due to a quarrel between the team's players and hotel security due to the desire of some players to accompany girls inside the hotel.

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This is what I posted on reddit in regards to his heart lesions. The disciplinary stuff is ridiculous for a 32 old man at this point.

My clinic has done research that has shown that men with the highest physical activity levels were 11% more likely to have arterial calcification than men who were less active. The study also showed that most highly active men were at lower risk for all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality when compared to men who were less active. Not unheard of for highly fit athletes to develop lesions in the coronary arteries. Its also something not overly tested because most men under 40 won't have done scans that reveal coronary lesions.

Now if these are myocardial lesions rather than coronary ones, we're basically talking mini-heart attack with damage to the heart muscle. Could be myocarditis just from the shear amount of viral infections he's had this year with Covid twice and malaria. Add in the amount of training needed to play professional soccer and its a lot of strain on the heart

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PEA sounds like a mess. Good grief.
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Interesting stuff, thanks for posting that, wangus.
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Many believe the "assistant coach" mentioned is actually his brother. His brother is supposedly the bad influence in his life and has been for years.
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Wouldn't be opposed to buying him now and loaning back until the end of the season like we did Saliba. Not ideal but if it avoids some of the summer competition driving up the price I would be ok with it.
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Now reading the Arsenal and Fiorentina pretty much have a deal on Vlahovic, but the agent wants some crazy deal with 10m signing bonus and the agent wants 20% of any future sale.
chjoak
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Vlahovic looks really good but I'm not sure this agent is worth dealing with.
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I was under the impression that Vlahovic wants to come and is getting tired of his agent. It's absurd what they're demanding.
chjoak
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There are so many stories that there is no telling what is right. If he truly wants to come, I think he should fire his agent asap.
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Vlahovic is likely over. Too many stories point to a summer move. Lille says they won't sell David until summer. So if we want someone this window, do we go for Isak or a lessor name (Cabral, Bayo, Toney, Nunez, etc...)?
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I think you gotta shift focus and go get a midfielder. Don't think Isak is worth what it will cost. He has had a down year.
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Agree that we need a CM but im not sure it ever was or needs to be one or the other. Now maybe if you arent putting as much cash into ST you could go buy someone vs looking for a loan but I would still like to see us atleast bring in a legit backup (PEA is a mess & Eddie is sooo inconsistent).

West Ham is rumored to be pursuing Arthur Cabral for 15-20m euro. He is in a lessor league but looks legit and with the lower cost there is less pressure to insert him into the lineup immediately. At 20m you would then have 50m (based on the rumored Vlahovic price) available for a CM transfer. 45m gets you Guimaraes or I have seen de Jong rumored at 50m or you can go 15-20m for Kamara and leave 30m for something else.
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Another semi-random thought... Doesn't fit the age profile but what about Memphis Depay. Barca are rumored to want to offload him since he isn't fitting Xavi's scheme. His last 2-3 seasons at Lyon he played a false 9 (like Laca is now) with great success (20g 12a in last season). Big difference between he and Laca is that he has more speed to get into the box after dishing to the wings. Barca was rumored to want PEA. Not sure if legit but I could see PEA + maybe 20m.
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Can y'all buy a couple guys today or at least stop loaning guys out so Liverpool can beat y'all tomorrow? It works better for our schedule.

Or we can postpone it till Salah and Mane are back
chjoak
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Can you guys win without Salah & Mane?
Had the perfect chance when stupid Xhaka got a red but only got 1 shot in 70min of a man advantage.
wangus12
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The game is Thursday, but if y'all want to show up a day early and claim to miss it that's ok. Wouldn't be the first time y'all dodged a game
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