Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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In reply to twelve12twelve • 9:20a, 1/3/26
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twelve12twelve said:
"No new wars"


Forever war, comrades.


We're not going to turn a blind eye to thugs like this that harm America. Give me a break.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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In reply to PaulsBunions • 9:21a, 1/3/26
PaulsBunions said:
Texas12&0 said:
PaulsBunions said:
TommyBrady said:
The message is clear if you kill Americans we will find you and arrest you or we will kill you.


*unless you are Chinese sending Fentanyl to be sold on American streets

How about you do us all a favor and step into the real world.


It's a fact that China sends Fentanyl into America with zero repercussions. Step into the real world and acknowledge that.

Duh. Go ahead and pull off an operation like this in China, brainiac.
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9:21a, 1/3/26
A message to the Left that they will understand: Edmundo Gonzalez and 'Maria Corina were duly elected. Maduro usurped the election. Maduro was a "Threat to Democracy."
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In reply to Pylon Cam • 9:22a, 1/3/26
Pylon Cam said:
The "no new wars" president strikes again

some apparently are too stupid to realize the difference between two unrelated topics:

1. war

2. arresting wanted narco-terrorists who are under indictment in the US Southern District of New York
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9:22a, 1/3/26


French with a very French statement
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In reply to PaulsBunions • 9:22a, 1/3/26
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Good. More prosperity for us and Venezuela.
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9:23a, 1/3/26
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That clip of the helo raining fire is incredible.

I'm pretty non-interventionist but we're not "nation building" here. And I think cartels need to have a healthy fear of death at all times.
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In reply to Texas12&0 • 9:24a, 1/3/26
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Texas12&0 said:
PaulsBunions said:
Texas12&0 said:
PaulsBunions said:
TommyBrady said:
The message is clear if you kill Americans we will find you and arrest you or we will kill you.


*unless you are Chinese sending Fentanyl to be sold on American streets

How about you do us all a favor and step into the real world.


It's a fact that China sends Fentanyl into America with zero repercussions. Step into the real world and acknowledge that.

Duh. Go ahead and pull off an operation like this in China, brainiac.


You're so quick to insult without even reading my posts. What exactly have I said that you disagree with? There's no need to be upset.
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In reply to valvemonkey91 • 9:25a, 1/3/26
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Pylon Cam said:
The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.


Let's focus now on Iran when we have them on the verge of freedom and throwing off the Mullahs

that will literally change the ENTIRE Middle East and world.

then focus on Colombia.


Cuba will fall on it's own with Venezuela and Colombia no longer able to support the communists
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:25a, 1/3/26
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flown-the-coop said:
Kansas Kid said:
Texas12&0 said:
fixer said:
Make the drug war great again.

This is how you fight a war against drugs. Not by supplying needles to addicts or just saying, "No."

Unfortunately, this won't have a long term effect on drugs in the US. History has shown that taking out one gang only leads to others quickly replacing that one.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have taken Maduro out but I also don't think this stops drugs in this country.

Previous US leaders have had the goal of "controlling" the flow of drugs into the US. Trump seems pretty focusing on STOPPING it. Will it work? To be seen but to default to this being just like last time is naive and actually ignores history and what is different this time.
It also remains to be seen if some US leaders had the goal of profiting off the flow of drugs into the US. Maduro better be under tighter security than Epstein was.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:26a, 1/3/26
flown-the-coop said:
Kansas Kid said:
Texas12&0 said:
fixer said:
Make the drug war great again.

This is how you fight a war against drugs. Not by supplying needles to addicts or just saying, "No."

Unfortunately, this won't have a long term effect on drugs in the US. History has shown that taking out one gang only leads to others quickly replacing that one.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have taken Maduro out but I also don't think this stops drugs in this country.

Previous US leaders have had the goal of "controlling" the flow of drugs into the US. Trump seems pretty focusing on STOPPING it. Will it work? To be seen but to default to this being just like last time is naive and actually ignores history and what is different this time.

Do you really think drugs can only come from outside the US? While I don't think it is possible to stop the importation of drugs, even if Trump does, there are so many different drugs out there, which can easily be made in a high school lab or home kitchen that the scourge of drugs won't stop. To think otherwise is really naive.

Want proof, go see how well prohibition worked when the US government tried to stop all production and transportation of alcohol.
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9:26a, 1/3/26
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Maduro Indictment
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In reply to PaulsBunions • 9:26a, 1/3/26
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PaulsBunions said:


So it's really not about the drugs. Hah
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In reply to nu awlins ag • 9:27a, 1/3/26
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nu awlins ag said:
Dan Scott said:
I was wondering why ExxonMobil and Chevron stocks were up so much despite oil being down. Exxon made a new 52 week high yesterday. They will get access to the reserves I'm guessing


They already have access, that's why they put up a fight with the Hess merger.


That was over Guyana. This is Venezuela. Their oil industry ks going to be rebuilt by American oil companies who now have access to their massive reserves.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 9:28a, 1/3/26
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Who?mikejones! said:


French with a very French statement


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The repeated violations of this principle by nations entrusted with the primary responsibility as permanent members of the United Nations Security Council will have heavy consequences for world security, sparing no one.


He says this as [checks notes] Somalia takes the Presidency of the UN Security Council 3 days ago.

Get back to me when you have any legitimacy to run your mouth whatsoever you Islam appeasing hypocrite.
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In reply to LMCane • 9:29a, 1/3/26
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LMCane said:
Ag87H2O said:
P.H. Dexippus said:
Interesting timing
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/01/02/maduro-im-ready-make-deal-trump/

I bet he is - now. He had his chances. One day these bad guys will learn that when it comes to U.S. national security, Trump doesn't bluff.


I hope Khamaini and his terrorist Mullah buddies have twitter!!


No one has Twitter. There's been some (not so) recent events
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In reply to BlackGold • 9:29a, 1/3/26
BlackGold said:
PaulsBunions said:


So it's really not about the drugs. Hah


Its about drugs. And oil (not so much our need for it, but to control how Venezuela uses it). And gangs. And chavismo. And china. And Russia.

But sure. Oil
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In reply to Rossticus • 9:29a, 1/3/26
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Rossticus said:
MelvinUdall said:
But Trump is a Russian puppet..#the left and concerned moderates


I'll disagree on the China part. There's still Brazil there and a large number of Latin American countries are part of the Belt and Road Initiative or plan to use Huawei for 5G.
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9:31a, 1/3/26
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I've now heard twice that Maduros security team was Cuban. What is that about?
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9:31a, 1/3/26
Where do you guys think the helicopters took off from? I don't think their range is that long.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 9:32a, 1/3/26
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Who?mikejones! said:
BlackGold said:
PaulsBunions said:


So it's really not about the drugs. Hah


Its about drugs. And oil (not so much our need for it, but to control how Venezuela uses it). And gangs. And chavismo. And china. And Russia.

But sure. Oil


It's pretty clear now, the drugs were the cover story. Everything else, is what really mattered.
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9:33a, 1/3/26
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Senator Andy Kim (who?) D-NJ is pissed.

Yeah, this process hasn't been followed since WWII because you abdicated your responsibility. Try again.

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"Secretaries Rubio and Hegseth looked every Senator in the eye a few weeks ago and said this wasn't about regime change. I didn't trust them then and we see now that they blatantly lied to Congress," Kim wrote on social platform X. "Trump rejected our Constitutionally required approval process for armed conflict because the Administration knows the American people overwhelmingly reject risks pulling our nation into another war.



It's the very definition of strength, actual sound foreign policy and reduces Americans at risk in VZ. By the way, what sane American would have been hanging out in Chavez/Maduro led VZ anyway?

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"This strike doesn't represent strength. It's not sound foreign policy," he continued. "It puts Americans at risk in Venezuela and the region, and it sends a horrible and disturbing signal to other powerful leaders across the globe that targeting a head of state is an acceptable policy for the U.S. government."
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 9:33a, 1/3/26
Deaths from od's has fallen off a cliff since trump took over.

Of course it will always be a problem. That doesn't mean we shouldn't deal with it. Especially narco terror states
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In reply to Aust Ag • 9:33a, 1/3/26
Aust Ag said:
I've now heard twice that Maduros security team was Cuban. What is that about?


Because Maduro didn't trust his own people. And some say Maduro was a Cuban proxy. He studied Marxism in Cuba.
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In reply to LMCane • 9:33a, 1/3/26
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LMCane said:
AtticusMatlock said:
Comments are saying likely Spec Ops little birds rather than Apaches.

it just looks like it is from the ground on the side of a mountain but maybe we can't see where the jungle is and where the helicopters are.

do little birds have a chain gun like that? kind of looks like 40mm gatling gun from a C-130 Jolly Green Giant!


Please stop pretending you know what you're talking about
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In reply to Kansas Kid • 9:34a, 1/3/26
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That's a strawman.

Taking our Maduro and stopping the flow of drugs into the Country is a wholly separate discussion of stopping home grown drugs.

The cartels are not going to have their volume replaced by a motorcycle gangs and wannabe Heisenbergs.
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In reply to Saxsoon • 9:35a, 1/3/26
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Saxsoon said:
One of the positives I saw in Trump was the no new wars stuff.

Guess I was wrong

Bless your heart.

The "war" has ended.
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In reply to Burdizzo • 9:35a, 1/3/26
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Burdizzo said:
infinity ag said:
Now do Iran! Now do Pakistan!



Now do New York City


I posted in this thread we should do this to Minnesota and California and mods removed it. Apparently it's ok to discuss removing socialist dictators in foreign countries but not the US.
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In reply to Aust Ag • 9:36a, 1/3/26
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Aust Ag said:
I've now heard twice that Maduros security team was Cuban. What is that about?

Can't trust his own security people. Brought in the Cubans. Apparently not very good at security!
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In reply to BlackGold • 9:36a, 1/3/26
BlackGold said:
Who?mikejones! said:
BlackGold said:
PaulsBunions said:


So it's really not about the drugs. Hah


Its about drugs. And oil (not so much our need for it, but to control how Venezuela uses it). And gangs. And chavismo. And china. And Russia.

But sure. Oil


It's pretty clear now, the drugs were the cover story. Everything else, is what really mattered.


Its pretty clear it is all the above
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 9:36a, 1/3/26
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Who?mikejones! said:
BlackGold said:
PaulsBunions said:


So it's really not about the drugs. Hah


Its about drugs. And oil (not so much our need for it, but to control how Venezuela uses it). And gangs. And chavismo. And china. And Russia.

But sure. Oil


I would say its more about sending a message to China/Russia to gtfo from our hemisphere, if we cared about drugs we would have kept up the ban on poppy production when we occupied Afghanistan since something like 90% of the world's heroin supply came from there.
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In reply to Severian the Torturer • 9:37a, 1/3/26
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Severian the Torturer said:
Where do you guys think the helicopters took off from? I don't think their range is that long.

Was there an amphibious assault ship nearby / part of the task force? Most likely source for the helicopters
Saw previous posts in this thread that the Iwo Jima was around.
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In reply to Aust Ag • 9:37a, 1/3/26
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Aust Ag said:
I've now heard twice that Maduros security team was Cuban. What is that about?


Cuba has a more sophisticated security infrastructure and process so Maduro has been using the Cubans as muscle in exchange for heavily discounted oil back to Cuba to keep their commie regime afloat. It was a symbiotic relationship that is now going to further endanger Bermudez in Cuba.

The naval blockade had already shrunk Cuba's daily VZ oil from 100k barrels to 30k barrels based on reports. It could go to zero at this point.
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