Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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Make the drug war great again.
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Maduro is a cartel leader who happens to be a dictator. This isnt an act of war. Its using our police force to capture a cartel leader. He is El Chapo with a title control over a country.
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Farmer_J said:


I guess this inevitably means that the US will be taking in millions of Venezuela refugees


How do you figure? Millions who fled can now return.
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Farmer_J said:


I guess this inevitably means that the US will be taking in millions of Venezuela refugees



We already have.
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wessimo said:




Except that Chile and Panama turned out for the better. My brother went on vacation to the DR last year so that seems to be ok as well. I have other friends that have vacationed in Guatemala.

I can't speak for Nicaragua although I hear it's a pretty good surfing destination for that part of the world.

Cuba didn't work out though.
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Everyone's a badass until Delta and the 160th show up at their door.
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fixer said:

Make the drug war great again.


Cut off the Chinese interactions with narco states. Stop the drug flow on a large scale. Legalize pot federally and watch the lib heads explode
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PaulsBunions said:




Haha. And the Rangers would be too ashamed to say anything if they didn't get any close combat on the mission.
94chem,
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Folks are throwing around bombs and massive air strikes, but best I can tell, this was a strategic helo/spec ops incursion to seize two people, that was successful and over in a matter of minutes with no US casualties…

Rockets/missiles…not seeing any bombs…

Doesn't feel like a war…feels like a police action…
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Jeeper79 said:

Who else was expecting a slow news day.


Way better than a mostly ****ty slate of worthless bowl games.
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The same crowd who was wrong about the strikes on Iran and pretends every military action is the equivalent of WWIII and every engagement is a repeat of the Iraq War.

You should recognize that they have proven wrong at every turn.



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FireAg said:

Folks are throwing around bombs and massive air strikes, but best I can tell, this was a strategic helo/spec ops incursion to seize two people, that was successful and over in a matter of minutes with no US casualties…

Rockets/missiles…not seeing any bombs…

Doesn't feel like a war…feels like a police action…


Correct.
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94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

Well, stand by and we will see. It appears we may be on a course to clean up our hemisphere! Would that bother any rational American?
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Jeeper79 said:

94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

I also see this as an immigration issue. Making it safer for people to go home.

Good point. And maybe get oilfield jobs.
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YouBet said:

Yesterday said:

As someone who helped get rid of one bad dictator in Iraq in 2003 and watched that region go into even more of a **** hole, I'm not so sure on this one.

I do like that we went in, got him and for now got out. Would have saved tens of thousands in Iraq for virtually the same result.


The one thing it has going for it is that it is not a fourth world Islamic culture. It's a generally Christian based culture that used to be the most successful in South America. There are millions of people still alive who remember what they can be. The Islamic world does not have that muscle memory. VZ does.
More importantly, VZ is across the Caribbean and in our own hemisphere. Geography makes this action fundamentally different from regime change on the other side of the world.
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Many Americans aren't rational. See Branch Covidians. They went irrational then and never came back.
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Imagine having TDS so bad that you root for an illegitimate narco terrorist who kills 100,000 Americans a year. Democrats need to be careful about where they fall on this.
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flyrancher said:

94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

Well, stand by and we will see. It appears we may be on a course to clean up our hemisphere! Would that bother any rational American?

Sure, it sends a message to Colombia, the epicenter of the drug problem. Of course, that's this year's message. Last time around the Colombians learned that as long as they're not commies, we fully support the drug trade. The cartels may have to become capitalists to keep their jobs this time. Just don't make any deals with China and you can keep the coke flowing.
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FireAg said:

Folks are throwing around bombs and massive air strikes, but best I can tell, this was a strategic helo/spec ops incursion to seize two people, that was successful and over in a matter of minutes with no US casualties…

Rockets/missiles…not seeing any bombs…

Doesn't feel like a war…feels like a police action…


AF Post reporting refineries were also targeted/destroyed, if true there were some "bombings". AF post could be wrong though.

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My TDS afflicted liberal friend is going to go nuts today.

I met him at the gym yesterday and the topic was illegal immigration and he was angry how "unhuman" Trump was.

He told me that he is okay with 100000 guilty people getting away but not even one innocent should be punished.

Hmm...
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G Martin 87 said:

YouBet said:

Yesterday said:

As someone who helped get rid of one bad dictator in Iraq in 2003 and watched that region go into even more of a **** hole, I'm not so sure on this one.

I do like that we went in, got him and for now got out. Would have saved tens of thousands in Iraq for virtually the same result.


The one thing it has going for it is that it is not a fourth world Islamic culture. It's a generally Christian based culture that used to be the most successful in South America. There are millions of people still alive who remember what they can be. The Islamic world does not have that muscle memory. VZ does.
More importantly, VZ is across the Caribbean and in our own hemisphere. Geography makes this action fundamentally different from regime change on the other side of the world.


Yes, and justifies all of this as far as I'm concerned. The Western Hemisphere needs to be Fortress America, frankly. It's high time we prep for that as de-globalization continues to unwind and we settle into a bi-polar world run by the US and China.
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Yesterday said:

As someone who helped get rid of one bad dictator in Iraq in 2003 and watched that region go into even more of a **** hole, I'm not so sure on this one.

I do like that we went in, got him and for now got out. Would have saved tens of thousands in Iraq for virtually the same result.


Think Panama more than iraq
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I'm going to especially laugh if the female opposition leader who has been in the news ends up as the next ruler. We can then watch the US Democrats pretzel their way into lambasting this operation while a woman takes charge.

Trump's "War on Woman" goes international.
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this is basically Grenada or Panama
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94chem said:

Jeeper79 said:

94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

I also see this as an immigration issue. Making it safer for people to go home.

Good point. And maybe get oilfield jobs.

Some have been allowed to remain on work permits, but it's all going to get phased out now (hopefully). Some of their better people have actually been here following the rules, but many clearly will need to go back now:
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After reviewing country conditions and consulting with the appropriate U.S. government agencies, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem determined that Venezuela no longer meets the conditions for its designation for Temporary Protected Status (TPS), and that the termination of the 2023 Venezuela TPS designation is required as it is contrary to the national interest. On October 3, 2025, the Supreme Court allowed the termination to take immediate effect. TPS beneficiaries who received an Employment Authorization Document on or before February 5, 2025, with a 'Card Expires' date of October 2, 2026, will maintain work authorization until October 2, 2026.

Separately, Secretary Noem published her notice to terminate the Venezuela 2021 designation, which is effective on Nov. 7, 2025, at 11:59 p.m. See Termination of the 2021 Designation of Venezuela for Temporary Protected Status, 90 Fed. Reg. 43225 (Sept. 8, 2025).

Additional information is available on the TPS Venezuela page. Be aware that litigation related updates are possible and check that page for the latest information.

I think there are/were a total of around 300K here using TPS.
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FireAg said:

Folks are throwing around bombs and massive air strikes, but best I can tell, this was a strategic helo/spec ops incursion to seize two people, that was successful and over in a matter of minutes with no US casualties…

Rockets/missiles…not seeing any bombs…

Doesn't feel like a war…feels like a police action…


Correct. Unsure why anyone would call this a war.
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LMCane said:

wow- when was the last time the USA started a military campaign with HELICOPTERS strafing ground targets

rather than jets/missiles decimating for days the area?!/



Desert Storm. First shots fired were hellfire missiles fired by Apaches taking out an Iraqi radar installation and opening a corridor for strike aircraft. Huah!
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The more I think about it the madder I get that the tables were not turned and Venezuela didn't capture Biden and fly him out of the country. Hopefully, Zelensky will be providing us support in this effort.
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infinity ag said:

Now do Iran! Now do Pakistan!



Now do New York City
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PaulsBunions said:

TommyBrady said:

The message is clear if you kill Americans we will find you and arrest you or we will kill you.


*unless you are Chinese sending Fentanyl to be sold on American streets

How about you do us all a favor and step into the real world.
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Putin takes 5 minutes off from invading and annexing Ukraine to condemn the USA for its aggression against Venezuela/Madero.
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Well, i suspect Claudia Sheinbaum may be looking over her shoulder in Mexico. Has been rumored to have substantial cartel backing.

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I guess Maduro is feeling the warm embrace of collectivism....

Maduro on the USS Iwo Jima...I hope they give that ******* my old rack.
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Putin is just pissed because he doesn't have the capability to do this with Zelensky. Or he would have.
 
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