Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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Protesting the capture of Nicolas Maduro?!?!? Sometimes people should just take a break. It might actually help their cause.
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Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.
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American just kicked the door down and captured a commie dictator who has sent drugs and criminals into this country.

No loss of American life, and absolute bad a$$ery all around.
If you are miserable about it, and its clear that many folks on this thread are, you need to evaluate your life choices. Its almost certain that are a miserable person to be around, and poison to all around you.

Be better. Take a break from your hatred.
Its ok to celebrate America, even if it wasn't your party in power.
And don't forget to make an appointment with your shrink.

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pacecar02 said:



pretty much sums it up
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Who?mikejones! said:




Yeah. Contrary to any previous statements, I don't think we're going to be working with her on anything.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.
The question is, is China more likely to invade Taiwan now? Or less likely?
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.


One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right?

So let us all choose which is which and see what it says about us.

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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Trump!!!!

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techno-ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.
The question is, is China more likely to invade Taiwan now? Or less likely?


I say more likely, way more likely actually
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Who?mikejones! said:




Do we have any medical students in Venezuela?

The international community condemned that "illegal" operation too.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.

China has already said they were going to invade Taiwan and by 2027 to be exact. So I see this as somewhat logical fallacy since you simply take them at face value and don't let what they've already said dictate what you should and shouldn't do to protect your own country in your own backyard.

Also, the entire western world has a strategic interest in Taiwan and we've already said we would defend them and so has Japan.

Hell, the UK Defense Minister told China they would nuke China if they did it.
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Correct my memory if I am mistaken but didn't Putin send in his troops in the very early days of the Ukraine war to take Zelensky out by capturing the airport in Kyiv? Complete failure?
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based on what? their newly secured energy supply li-- oh wait
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Yes, the got deleted from the game
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HoustonAg2106 said:

techno-ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.
The question is, is China more likely to invade Taiwan now? Or less likely?


I say more likely, way more likely actually
A sympathizer might think so. But world leaders see that Trump is serious.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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YouBet said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.

China has already said they were going to invade Taiwan and by 2027 to be exact. So I see this as somewhat logical fallacy since you simply take them at face value and don't let what they've already said dictate what you should and shouldn't do to protect your own country in your own backyard.

Also, the entire western world has a strategic interest in Taiwan and we've already said we would defend them and so has Japan.

Hell, the UK Defense Minister told China they would nuke China if they did it.


China will wait for the next Dem admin to unilaterally lube up and bend over for them.
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Biz Ag said:




How it went...


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The un and what army?



The era of the globalist is coming to an end. Un better start prepping
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aggiehawg said:

Correct my memory if I am mistaken but didn't Putin send in his troops in the very early days of the Ukraine war to take Zelensky out by capturing the airport in Kyiv? Complete failure?


Turned out more special than military operation
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Zobel said:

based on what? their newly secured energy supply li-- oh wait
china was never really dependent on venezuelan oil to begin with
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deddog said:

American just kicked the door down and captured a commie dictator who has sent drugs and criminals into this country.

No loss of American life, and absolute bad a$$ery all around.
If you are miserable about it, and its clear that many folks on this thread are, you need to evaluate your life choices. Its almost certain that are a miserable person to be around, and poison to all around you.

Be better. Take a break from your hatred.
Its ok to celebrate America, even if it wasn't your party in power.
And don't forget to make an appointment with your shrink.




Venezuelans are unanimously happy about this, it's geopolitically advantageous for us to clear out the China allies in our hemisphere, and our sends a strong message to the drug cartels. So it's hard to get upset in any way.

But damn, toppling the leader of a foreign country, even a crappy, evil one, is a large exercise of executive power. I can't help but be a little nervous about that part and the precedent it establishes.
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I'm expecting a sternly worded letter. They did absolutely nothing over a literal invasion and mass civilian casualties. And we're supposed to take this seriously? Give me a break. The UN is a joke who nobody, except for themselves, takes seriously.
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Who?mikejones! said:



The un and what army?



The era of the globalist is coming to an end. Un better start prepping

The UN Security Council currently led by Somalia?

Yes, I look forward to what they have to say about this.
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never said they were
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jt2hunt said:



For a young man, that was an astounding speech.
That speech should be played in the halls of Congress and on every major news outlet.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Who?mikejones! said:



The un and what army?



The era of the globalist is coming to an end. Un better start prepping

Ha! And isn't the Somali guy supposed to be in charge of the council this month? Don't make them put their blue helmets on.
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YouBet said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Harry Stone said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Zobel said:

who cares?

should the US oppose chinese expansion in the western hemisphere? or chinese expansion in critical industries and raw materials, to the point of monopolization? or their potential invasion of taiwan?

the world beyond our borders matters. our actions matter.

"hey one time some other people knocked over a statue" is about as facile a comparison as can possibly be made.


First of all if you are so concerned about the Chinese maybe stop them from invading our farm property and other industries in our own damn country. They have bought thousands of acres of land outside of militates throughout the US and we have done nothing about it.

And how are we supposed to be taken seriously about opposing Tawaiin being invaded by a foreign country when we are doing the same exact thing literally. If anything we just gave a green light to China to take Tawaiin off the board


Didnt realize Taiwan's leader was a narcoterrorist dictator who had sanctions against him. Apples to oranges my friend.


Apples and Oranges from our perspective, but China doesn't see it that way. It's entirely plausible to think they could take this as a sign of aggression and feel like their hand has now been forced to invade Taiwan just like Putin felt with Ukraine and the NATO situation.

China has already said they were going to invade Taiwan and by 2027 to be exact. So I see this as somewhat logical fallacy since you simply take them at face value and don't let what they've already said dictate what you should and shouldn't do to protect your own country in your own backyard.

Also, the entire western world has a strategic interest in Taiwan and we've already said we would defend them and so has Japan.

Hell, the UK Defense Minister told China they would nuke China if they did it.


Can you please share a link to China proclaiming their military strategies and even timelines to take Taiwan? I don't think they would share that information with the world but maybe I'm wrong.
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This is starting to look a bit like Trump's "Fight!" after being shot. A lot of the usual suspects are prohibited by jersey color to say it but they think it is pretty bad-ass.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

deddog said:

American just kicked the door down and captured a commie dictator who has sent drugs and criminals into this country.

No loss of American life, and absolute bad a$$ery all around.
If you are miserable about it, and its clear that many folks on this thread are, you need to evaluate your life choices. Its almost certain that are a miserable person to be around, and poison to all around you.

Be better. Take a break from your hatred.
Its ok to celebrate America, even if it wasn't your party in power.
And don't forget to make an appointment with your shrink.




Venezuelans are unanimously happy about this, it's geopolitically advantageous for us to clear out the China allies in our hemisphere, and our sends a strong message to the drug cartels. So it's hard to get upset in any way.

But damn, toppling the leader of a foreign country, even a crappy, evil one, is a large exercise of executive power. I can't help but be a little nervous about that part and the precedent it establishes.

You don't think there was previous precedent? You new here?
 
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