Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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techno-ag said:

Earlier reports said our three letter agencies had eyes on him for months.

But does 'eyes on' include a member of his Cuban security team? Certainly possible I guess.
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Rossticus said:

YouBet said:

These Russian statements are incredible to read.

1. The Ukraine invasion hypocrisy might be an all-timer example.
2. Crying that Trump will just deceive China so ask them. lol. Yes, China who broke the mold on deceit and literally has deceit as a core value of their strategic doctrine.

Goodness.


if you like that then you'll love this:



He is Putin's Rasputin. I am sure things will work out great, just like the last time people in power in Russia had a Rasputin guiding them!!

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Indeed. I saw a pic of one that an amatuer photographer cauaght of one over the phillipiines like 8 or 9 years ago. That is the only other one I have seen.

Edit: found the pic

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There is no confirmed evidence that the RQ-170 Sentinel drone was ever photographed or operated over the Philippines. The aircraft in question, captured in a photo taken by landscape photographer Michael Fugnit in Santa Magdalena, Sorsogon, on September 2, 2021, is widely believed by aviation experts to be the U.S. Air Force's RQ-180 stealth drone rather than the RQ-170. The RQ-180, developed by Northrop Grumman, is a high-altitude, long-endurance, very low-observable drone designed for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) missions in contested airspace. It is reportedly nicknamed the "Great White Bat" or "Shikaka".

a "Great White Bat" or "Shikaka". in honor of Ace Ventura

Remebered I saw it in The WarZone and found the article and a better pic

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https://www.twz.com/42261/mystery-flying-wing-aircraft-photographed-over-the-philippines
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aggiehawg said:

techno-ag said:

Earlier reports said our three letter agencies had eyes on him for months.

But does 'eyes on' include a member of his Cuban security team? Certainly possible I guess.


Why not the VP themselves….
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docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

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I wish they would stop talking about fentanyl with Venezuela. Do they really think we are that stupid. This is about oil and geopolitical rifts with China and Russia. We are not going to invade a country to help out a bunch of drug addicts.

Do you not understand what kind of burden those drug addicts put on a society?


How about stop using them?

Well ideally, yes. But you leftists have proven time and time again that you can't/won't accept any personal responsibility whatsoever, so cutting off the supply is really the only wait to limit your destruction on the sane, functioning part of society.
Hope that helps

You think I'm a leftist because I'm saying people shouldn't use drugs? Yea that makes no sense at all. I'm saying if you choose poorly you are likely going to suffer the consequences. People make their own choices.


Yep, teenagers make extremely rational decisions on a regular basis so let's just let them injest poison pills farmed out of Mexico and South American ****holes.

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They're pretty slow on the uptake, aren't they?



PETRO responds to Donald TRUMP and tells him:

" If you want to put me in prison, try it and see if you can, if you want to put the orange uniform on me, try it, but the Colombian people will come out to defend me"
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Or is this all a show on the part of the Venezuelan regime?

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You cannot turn Venezuela into an operational hub for the intelligence services of Iran, Russia, Hezbollah, China, or Cuba. This cannot continue. You cannot place the world's largest oil reserves under the control of adversaries of the United States."

According to Bloomberg, effective control over Venezuela has been handed to Marco Rubio, who has become the chief interim coordinator "until a secure transfer of authority."

Rubio is a long-time and outspoken critic of both Maduro and Chvez. He has already held talks with Vice President Delcy Rodrguez, demanding an end to narcotrafficking. The U.S. Secretary of State stated that discussions about elections in Venezuela are not yet underway.

He also emphasized that strikes against drug-laden vessels will continue if they move toward the United States.
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annie88 said:

Why would keeping Rodriguez in play be the thing to do?

She's a Maduro loyalist?

There has to be somebody who will play ball with the military and other actors in the existing govt to transition to the democratically elected one. This is a lesson learned from Iraq and Paul Bremer firing all the baathists. If you get rid of everybody right away, you leave a huge power vacuum that usually gets filled with the worst sort of people. Rodriguez likely signaled prior to this that she would play ball if we removed Maduro.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

I wish they would stop talking about fentanyl with Venezuela. Do they really think we are that stupid. This is about oil and geopolitical rifts with China and Russia. We are not going to invade a country to help out a bunch of drug addicts.

Do you not understand what kind of burden those drug addicts put on a society?


How about stop using them?

Well ideally, yes. But you leftists have proven time and time again that you can't/won't accept any personal responsibility whatsoever, so cutting off the supply is really the only wait to limit your destruction on the sane, functioning part of society.
Hope that helps

You think I'm a leftist because I'm saying people shouldn't use drugs? Yea that makes no sense at all. I'm saying if you choose poorly you are likely going to suffer the consequences. People make their own choices.


Yep, teenagers make extremely rational decisions on a regular basis so let's just let them injest poison pills farmed out of Mexico and South American ****holes.

Poor choices. I've never used an illegal drug in my entire life because I choose not to.
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aggiehawg said:

Okay. I have seen some speculation about how the Chinese may have inadvertently outed Maduro's location and movements. The first involved the photographed meeting he had Chinese envoy and identifying the room from the pictures. Fair enough.

The second is more intriguing to me. The Huawei phones the Chinese gave to him have trackers on them. So Beijing could follow his movements believing their encryption of that data was robust enough to protect him. But US military has broken that encryption.

According to this well know Chinese podcaster, XI has now ordered his highest military members to stop using their Huawei phones? Hmm.

Go to 8 minute 12 second mark.


Huawei needs to be ripped out of every country in the Americans and any other country that wants to business with the USA!
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Another interesting assertion. Have seen this guy before but cannot vouch for sources and accuracy. But is it true that both Russia and China had installed their most advanced aircraft detection systems as a test lab for in and when the US did something? And that is why the electricity was "interrupted"?

Go to 9 minute mark.
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Given they had to poison, stab, shoot and throw Rasputin in a freezing river to finally kill him, this guy probably hopes it doesn't go that way.

Tangent point. I've actually been in the room where they poisoned Rasputin.
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Those are not strange bedfellows.


They are people who believe dumbassery is King.


The top of those groups talk compassion while enriching themselves at the expense of their constituents - the useful idiots.

Sadly there are a lot of useful idiots out squawking away right now.
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Politico, so take that for what little it's worth.

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An initial proposal presented to the U.S. called for:
Maduro to step down but remain in Venezuela
U.S. criminal charges to be dropped
U.S. oil companies granted access
Delcy Rodrguez to assume controlThat proposal failed.
A second proposal suggested Rodrguez lead a transition government, with Maduro going into exile in Qatar or Turkey. The U.S. rejected this as well, citing concerns it amounted to "Madurismo without Maduro" - a regime-lite outcome.

Rodrguez is now Interim President of Venezuela. Reporting indicates Maduro was unaware these talks were taking place.
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Why would that impact JP Morgan or shorters?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Why would that impact JP Morgan or shorters?


I was just posting it because I found the claim that they flew out silver interesting. I don't agree with the claim that there will be some outsized market impact tied to it, even if it were true (which is probably isn't).
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EDIT. Overlooked the profanity in the X Post. Oops.
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Th UN Security Council meeting tomorrow will be must see tv if it's aired:

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2026/01/04/watch-un-ambassador-mike-waltz-is-heading-into-mondays-security-council-meeting-loaded-for-bear-n2197744
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Rossticus said:



An initial proposal presented to the U.S. called for:
Maduro to step down but remain in Venezuela
U.S. criminal charges to be dropped
U.S. oil companies granted access
Delcy Rodrguez to assume controlThat proposal failed.
A second proposal suggested Rodrguez lead a transition government, with Maduro going into exile in Qatar or Turkey. The U.S. rejected this as well, citing concerns it amounted to "Madurismo without Maduro" - a regime-lite outcome.

Rodrguez is now Interim President of Venezuela. Reporting indicates Maduro was unaware these talks were taking place.


If true, it would kind of explain why Trump won't back Machado and actual regime change. Rodriguez was basically trying to remove her boss behind his back with the intent to present him with a fait accompli after getting US support, but we didn't want him in a position where he could return. Wondering if Rodriguez sanctioned us going in and grabbing him so she could take over while we sit back without insisting on real regime change in exchange for US oil companies being given access.
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Dude has good taste.


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ABATTBQ11 said:

Rossticus said:



An initial proposal presented to the U.S. called for:
Maduro to step down but remain in Venezuela
U.S. criminal charges to be dropped
U.S. oil companies granted access
Delcy Rodrguez to assume controlThat proposal failed.
A second proposal suggested Rodrguez lead a transition government, with Maduro going into exile in Qatar or Turkey. The U.S. rejected this as well, citing concerns it amounted to "Madurismo without Maduro" - a regime-lite outcome.

Rodrguez is now Interim President of Venezuela. Reporting indicates Maduro was unaware these talks were taking place.


If true, it would kind of explain why Trump won't back Machado and actual regime change. Rodriguez was basically trying to remove her boss behind his back with the intent to present him with a fait accompli after getting US support, but we didn't want him in a position where he could return. Wondering if Rodriguez sanctioned us going in and grabbing him so she could take over while we sit back without insisting on real regime change in exchange for US oil companies being given access.

The other thing is that the US may be leaking this to create significant cracks inside the transition government. Which will likely be the outcome. Either way, if true or not, there will be even larger amounts of people looking over their shoulder or taking out factional types during the next few days.

If I was in the CIA and we hadn't had talks, I would do this. If we had had these talks it's rough. Also if I was on those trips I'd be thinking about finding a way out of the country if I wasn't confident that the transition was going to work.
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annie88 said:

Given they had to poison, stab, shoot and throw Rasputin in a freezing river to finally kill him, this guy probably hopes it doesn't go that way.

Tangent point. I've actually been in the room where they poisoned Rasputin.

What a small world we live in. As a kid I also quite regularly visited one of Rasputin's haunts in a communist ****hole/people's republic.

https://imgs.search.brave.com/MSeSDUDW_RILSxnPKPJhkA30WdidftDjHRrQdRmJd1k/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9zMy1t/ZWRpYTAuZmwueWVs/cGNkbi5jb20vYnBo/b3RvL0VkdmJRcnd4/bW9JT0djWm5xcWNY/a1EvMzQ4cy5qcGc





https://www.visitberkeley.com/directory/rasputin-music/



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There is a massing at one point on the Colombia/VZ border.

But they are all journalists.
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KentK93 said:

Th UN Security Council meeting tomorrow will be must see tv if it's aired:

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2026/01/04/watch-un-ambassador-mike-waltz-is-heading-into-mondays-security-council-meeting-loaded-for-bear-n2197744

I am sure Mike Waltz is a good ambassador and will do a good job, but the way Marco Rubio has been lately ripping these water-carrying reporters for (any commie party will do) to shreds and the follow-up zingers. I would really love to watch him tear apart all the champagne socialists from Europe and all the other teeth-gnashing liberals claiming to represent their people. When in fact they represent Soros and the WEF.
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I just hope Mike Waltz goes there and clowns the UN Security Council for having Somalia as the President of the council.

The UN has zero legitimacy and I hope he makes this clear to them by simply pointing to the Somali guy and telling the entire body they are illegitimate as long as they keep putting ****hole anarchistic countries in positions of authority.
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docb said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

I wish they would stop talking about fentanyl with Venezuela. Do they really think we are that stupid. This is about oil and geopolitical rifts with China and Russia. We are not going to invade a country to help out a bunch of drug addicts.

Do you not understand what kind of burden those drug addicts put on a society?


How about stop using them?

Well ideally, yes. But you leftists have proven time and time again that you can't/won't accept any personal responsibility whatsoever, so cutting off the supply is really the only wait to limit your destruction on the sane, functioning part of society.
Hope that helps

You think I'm a leftist because I'm saying people shouldn't use drugs? Yea that makes no sense at all. I'm saying if you choose poorly you are likely going to suffer the consequences. People make their own choices.


Yep, teenagers make extremely rational decisions on a regular basis so let's just let them injest poison pills farmed out of Mexico and South American ****holes.

Poor choices. I've never used an illegal drug in my entire life because I choose not to.


Bully for you. And for my adult kids who did the same. There are millions of teenagers that may benefit from this that aren't as disciplined. That doesn't need to be a death sentence.

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TX_COWDOC said:

Dude has good taste.





Yep, and well fed. He could use some time in a prison weight room. Just don't drop the soap afterwards in the shower.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

docb said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

Jock 07 said:

docb said:

I wish they would stop talking about fentanyl with Venezuela. Do they really think we are that stupid. This is about oil and geopolitical rifts with China and Russia. We are not going to invade a country to help out a bunch of drug addicts.

Do you not understand what kind of burden those drug addicts put on a society?


How about stop using them?

Well ideally, yes. But you leftists have proven time and time again that you can't/won't accept any personal responsibility whatsoever, so cutting off the supply is really the only wait to limit your destruction on the sane, functioning part of society.
Hope that helps

You think I'm a leftist because I'm saying people shouldn't use drugs? Yea that makes no sense at all. I'm saying if you choose poorly you are likely going to suffer the consequences. People make their own choices.


Yep, teenagers make extremely rational decisions on a regular basis so let's just let them injest poison pills farmed out of Mexico and South American ****holes.

Poor choices. I've never used an illegal drug in my entire life because I choose not to.


Bully for you. And for my adult kids who did the same. There are millions of teenagers that may benefit from this that aren't as disciplined. That doesn't need to be a death sentence.

No it does not. Lots of choices to be made along life's journey.
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Is it just me or does Maduro actually look almost happy? Relieved, maybe? That he wasn't taken out by a drone strike through a window?
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So how long before we can set up and hold legit elections in VZ? Purple inked finger style?
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aggiehawg said:

So how long before we can set up and hold legit elections in VZ? Purple inked finger style?

It depends on how agreeable the new leader in VZ is willing to be. I have to imagine that Trump has made it clear that this narco-terrorist regime currently in place isn't going to be allowed to continue, no matter what. I'm sure Trump has told them that they too will find themselves sent off to a supermax in the US if they don't play ball.
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Has anyone asked Jimmy Carter how he feels about this development? Heck even the Carter Institute for Democracy called bullshizzle on Maduro's last election.

 
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