Well, I will say there is one segment of American society that is THRILLED with Maduro's ouster - the Somalis.

I waited some time to form an opinion on this instead of listening to liberal screeching on MSM. I think the threat of a close hostile regime sitting on the world's oil supply was simply too great of a risk for U.S. interests. Whether technically "legal" or not, we cannot let a POS like Maduro have access to that much wealth.

Good call by Trump.

Others can validate but here are the 6 crude heavy oil refineries in Texas. Number 6 seems wrong.

1. Motiva Port Arthur Refinery (Port Arthur, Texas) Owned by Saudi Aramco, capacity ~626,000 bpd. Designed to process heavy sour and acid crudes, with major delayed coker units.

2. Marathon Galveston Bay Refinery (Texas City, Texas) Capacity ~631,000 bpd. Processes a wide variety including heavy crudes, producing heavy fuel oil and equipped for complex upgrading.

3. Valero Port Arthur Refinery (Port Arthur, Texas) Capacity ~360,000395,000 bpd. Specializes in heavy sour crude oils, with a dedicated delayed coker unit commissioned for enhanced heavy resid processing.

4. ExxonMobil Beaumont Refinery (Beaumont, Texas) Capacity ~609,000 bpd. Capable of processing heavy sour crudes, with significant coking and upgrading infrastructure.

5. ExxonMobil Baytown Refinery (Baytown, Texas) One of the largest integrated complexes, processes diverse crudes including heavier grades.

6. Marathon El Paso Refinery (El Paso, Texas) Capacity ~133,000 bpd. Processes sour crudes (including heavier variants) into distillates and heavy fuel oil.

YouBet said:

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Others can validate but here are the 6 crude heavy oil refineries in Texas. Number 6 seems wrong.

1. Motiva Port Arthur Refinery (Port Arthur, Texas) Owned by Saudi Aramco, capacity ~626,000 bpd. Designed to process heavy sour and acid crudes, with major delayed coker units.

2. Marathon Galveston Bay Refinery (Texas City, Texas) Capacity ~631,000 bpd. Processes a wide variety including heavy crudes, producing heavy fuel oil and equipped for complex upgrading.

3. Valero Port Arthur Refinery (Port Arthur, Texas) Capacity ~360,000395,000 bpd. Specializes in heavy sour crude oils, with a dedicated delayed coker unit commissioned for enhanced heavy resid processing.

4. ExxonMobil Beaumont Refinery (Beaumont, Texas) Capacity ~609,000 bpd. Capable of processing heavy sour crudes, with significant coking and upgrading infrastructure.

5. ExxonMobil Baytown Refinery (Baytown, Texas) One of the largest integrated complexes, processes diverse crudes including heavier grades.

6. Marathon El Paso Refinery (El Paso, Texas) Capacity ~133,000 bpd. Processes sour crudes (including heavier variants) into distillates and heavy fuel oil.

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The Baytown refinery was set up in the last TA to make more olefins according to a friend of mine. I guess we use a lot of plastic. I am sure they could change it if needed.

For anyone who wants to play out the VZ situation via video game, you should check Tom Clancy's Ghose Recon Wildlands. I played it last year and it's a really good game. I'm quite sure it must have been based on VZ.

Here is the plot:

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Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands is a modern military shooter set in a near-future, open-world Bolivia Venezuela that has effectively become a narco-state.

Core premise

The powerful Santa Blanca drug cartel Cartel de los Soles , led by El Sueño Nicolas Maduro, has taken control of Bolivia's Venezuela's government, military, and economy.

You play as Nomad, the leader of a four-person Ghost team sent in under deep cover.

The mission structure
Rather than a single linear storyline, the plot unfolds through a systematic dismantling of the cartel:

• Santa Blanca Cartel de los Soles is divided into four major branches:
  
  • Production (drug manufacturing)
  • Smuggling (distribution routes)
  • Security (armed forces and enforcement)
  • Influence (propaganda, political control, intimidation)

Each branch is run by powerful lieutenants.

Your team:

• Gathers intel
• Undermines operations
• Captures or kills cartel leaders
• Weakens El Sueño's grip piece by piece

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Never heard of him. Don't care what he says.

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The problem with social media is that it takes no effort for anyone to share their thoughts, no matter how idiotic, and it takes just as little effort to find them.

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It's the Monroe DONroe Doctrine.

The oil and resources are just a bonus.

Keep China, Russia, Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah out of our hemisphere. BRIC is not in the US interest.

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fify

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ah ha! She was having trouble sleeping.

BREAKING; Venezuela's new president now says she wants to work WITH the U.S. pic.twitter.com/HJZevXtScx

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 5, 2026

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Yeah...

Maduro always wanted peace and dialogue for the Venezuelan people...

Pull the other one...

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Bucketrunner said:

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Never heard of him. Don't care what he says.

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The problem with social media is that it takes no effort for anyone to share their thoughts, no matter how idiotic, and it takes just as little effort to find them.

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Well, he is a pretty famous person...

Bucketrunner said:

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Never heard of him. Don't care what he says.

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. All in all, Just another brick in the wall.

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Bucketrunner said:

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Never heard of him. Don't care what he says.

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. All in all, Just another brick in the wall.

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Definitely an "us and them " thing.

Pink Floyd pimping for murderous, narco-terrorist dictators. Truly a bizarro world

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Pink Floyd pimping for murderous, narco-terrorist dictators. Truly a bizarro world

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Has anyone asked David Gilmore or Nick Mason?

Roger Waters wasn't the only member of Pink Floyd, as much as he thinks the band began and ended with him.

lol, I posted it because he's been suffering from long term TDS

the thread is full of reactions

Why so much hate for this one?

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No Spin Ag said:

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Bucketrunner said:

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Never heard of him. Don't care what he says.

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The problem with social media is that it takes no effort for anyone to share their thoughts, no matter how idiotic, and it takes just as little effort to find them.

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Well, he is a pretty famous person...

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A bit before my time.

I heard it the band but never knew their bands members. And, to be honest, I think i only heard the brick in the wall song maybe a couple of times when it was played at places I was at.

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Pink Floyd pimping for murderous, narco-terrorist dictators. Truly a bizarro world

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Ex-Pink Floyd. Don't be throwing mud on my man David Gilmour.

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'If I was a praying man, I'd pray for Nicolas Maduro'

Roger Waters says '99% of people in the world deplore' US actions against Venezuela

'Stunned by this savage act by the EMPIRE of the United States' pic.twitter.com/7IvOrICafv

— RT (@RT_com) January 4, 2026

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No, Pink Floyd.

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Who is Roger Daltrey?

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Pink Floyd pimping for murderous, narco-terrorist dictators. Truly a bizarro world

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Ex-Pink Floyd. Don't be throwing mud on my man David Gilmour.

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I always suspect Gilmour was referring to Waters when he wrote these lyrics

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So I open my door to my enemies
And I ask could we wipe the slate clean
But they tell me to please go f##k myself
You know you just can't win

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"Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" sucks

Take it to the Entertainment Board. They will love this there.

Washed up celeb that no one has given thought to in over a decade gets a call from his publicist. "Hey, wanna trend again? Say something bad about Trump."

Guaranteed attention.

It's like Olberman…why is he so obsessed with Trump? It's his only avenue for the attention he so desperately craves.

BREAKING - Venezuela orders police to find, arrest anyone involved in supporting U.S. attack-decree

— Phil Stewart (@phildstewart) January 5, 2026

...There are obvious differences. The most important being is that Maduro is here. There is no prolonged extradition proceedings. Courts tend to focus on the basis for the charges as opposed to the means used to bring them to court...

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) January 5, 2026

...What happens now is akin to invading Russia in winter. As lead counsel in classified national security cases, I can attest to the glacial pace of the coming process.

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) January 5, 2026

...Maduro has pleaded not guilty as expected...

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) January 5, 2026

......He did not appear to ask for bond/bail, which makes abundant sense. His chances of making bond are only slightly better than his being recognized as the legitimate president of Venezuela.

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) January 5, 2026