Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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12:32p, 1/3/26
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for those who are just waking up to this reality, this was spelled out clearly in advance in the WH recent national security strategy doc

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf

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After years of neglect, the United States will reassert and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American preeminence in the Western Hemisphere, and to protect our homeland and our access to key geographies throughout the region. We will deny non-Hemispheric competitors the ability to position forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control strategically vital assets, in our Hemisphere.


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The United States must reconsider our military presence in the Western Hemisphere. This means four obvious things...[including]...targeted deployments to secure the border and defeat cartels, including where necessary the use of lethal force to replace the failed law enforcement-only strategy of the last several decades...

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12:33p, 1/3/26
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Just don't follow Paul Bremer's huge mistake in Iraq. Don't fire all of the Baathists that actually ran crap there. Keep those functions (such as they are) going with US oversight. I'll get into post WWII Japan in a minute. But also important to note that the other massive mistake in post Saddam Iraq was the flock of hundreds and hundreds of NSOs going there getting federal handouts from USAID and other federal sources. They just impeded progress creating more problems than they solved.

Now we left Hirohito in place in Japan during the post war occupation. Work more behind the scenes as opposed to a conquering state. We ended the war in the Pacific but did so without taking Japan's land as our own.
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12:34p, 1/3/26
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The Concerned Moderate "dictator" experts are now clutching their pearls over an actual dictator being deposed by Donald J Trump's Administration.

SAD!

Find a new narrative, losers. It's winning time.
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In reply to jpb1999 • 12:35p, 1/3/26
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jpb1999 said:
94chem said:
flyrancher said:
94chem said:
valvemonkey91 said:
Pylon Cam said:
The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

Well, stand by and we will see. It appears we may be on a course to clean up our hemisphere! Would that bother any rational American?

No, but invading Venezuela because you don't like drugs is like invading New Mexico because you don't like Mexicans. I mean, close, but not really.

Hopefully we aren't sending mixed messages to Colombia, where law enforcement and intelligence have had opposite goals.


This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Consider the source
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In reply to Bumpy_2112 • 12:35p, 1/3/26
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Bumpy_2112 said:
La Bamba said:
Trump mentioned certain incentives for the oil companies coming to work VZ. But unlocking more oil could further depress oil prices. I wonder how all that will be balanced? I know most big IOCs have stated a $30-ish/bbl breakeven in West Texas, with prices at 57 currently, I wonder how a fully unlocked VZ would affect global oil markets.

First thing I thought when I saw this, this morning.

There is quite a range of prices for a barrel, interesting that Venezuela doesn't show up here.
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#
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In reply to YouBet • 12:35p, 1/3/26
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YouBet said:
Your obtuseness on this is galactic level. Did you read the thread?

See my posts and others who have already laid out in multiple posts why we are doing this.

You are honing in on "drugs!" while utterly ignoring the in your face geopolitical realities underway literally right now. You are also ignoring official DOW Strategic Doctrine.

I mean, goodness dude.


Obtuse means I am pretending to not understand a position. As I commented earlier regarding a meme, diagreeing does not mean not understanding. Stated differently, not agreeing with your position doesn't mean I don't understand it.

The polarizarion of our country leads to this stance of, "If you disagree, you must be too stupid to understand." Hopefully, we can fix that someday.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 12:35p, 1/3/26
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Who?mikejones! said:


"If you don't know..now you know."
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In reply to Zobel • 12:36p, 1/3/26
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We spelled it out on repeat.

As Hegseth said, "He effed around and found out".

This successful action is bigger than surface value due to how it was so perfectly executed. It confirms that the big stick is real and not just political sweet talk to appease some with empty threats
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In reply to Zobel • 12:36p, 1/3/26
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Zobel said:
for those who are just waking up to this reality, this was spelled out clearly in advance in the WH recent national security strategy doc

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf

specifically:


Quote:
After years of neglect, the United States will reassert and enforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American preeminence in the Western Hemisphere, and to protect our homeland and our access to key geographies throughout the region. We will deny non-Hemispheric competitors the ability to position forces or other threatening capabilities, or to own or control strategically vital assets, in our Hemisphere.


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The United States must reconsider our military presence in the Western Hemisphere. This means four obvious things...[including]...targeted deployments to secure the border and defeat cartels, including where necessary the use of lethal force to replace the failed law enforcement-only strategy of the last several decades...



Been pointing this out for days/weeks but several posters on here want to remain willfully ignorant of reality.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 12:38p, 1/3/26
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Dan Scott said:
US taxpayers will fund the rebuild of Venezuela, the oil companies will keep the profits. The American way.


Venezuelan dollars will rebuild Venezuela.

Sure, money will be made by restoring operations that had been captured previously. Venezuela exports to enemies of the US will now stop and also lower oil prices here.

Thought it was said China will still get their oil? Or was that not accurate?
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In reply to one safe place • 12:41p, 1/3/26
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one safe place said:
TAMUallen said:
Dan Scott said:
US taxpayers will fund the rebuild of Venezuela, the oil companies will keep the profits. The American way.


Venezuelan dollars will rebuild Venezuela.

Sure, money will be made by restoring operations that had been captured previously. Venezuela exports to enemies of the US will now stop and also lower oil prices here.

Thought it was said China will still get their oil? Or was that not accurate?


Unsure on specifics. Also, unsure as to what that means actually. What degree of oil interests are going to be returned to old owners? Will that mean that current Chinese agreements are no longer valid? Or is it a simple, China may buy oil as of now moving forward
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In reply to La Bamba • 12:43p, 1/3/26
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La Bamba said:
Trump mentioned certain incentives for the oil companies coming to work VZ. But unlocking more oil could further depress oil prices. I wonder how all that will be balanced? I know most big IOCs have stated a $30-ish/bbl breakeven in West Texas, with prices at 57 currently, I wonder how a fully unlocked VZ would affect global oil markets.

We can balance it by selling Ukraine Tomahawks to use against Russian O&G facilities.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 12:44p, 1/3/26
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Who?mikejones! said:



And if you dont know, now you know....
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In reply to Ed Harley • 12:49p, 1/3/26
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Ed Harley said:
BadMoonRisin said:
Ed Harley said:
Can't wait to be "running another country." Isn't this exactly what Trumpers voted against?


Typical Trumper retort. No substance, just like Trump.

Maduro is pretty sure there is some substance to Trump
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12:52p, 1/3/26
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Climate activists should take a snapshot of worldwide temperature. Probably up a couple of degrees today just from the fiery rage of Leftists. Gotta be a win in here somewhere for them.
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In reply to captkirk • 12:53p, 1/3/26
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captkirk said:
Ed Harley said:
BadMoonRisin said:
Ed Harley said:
Can't wait to be "running another country." Isn't this exactly what Trumpers voted against?


Typical Trumper retort. No substance, just like Trump.

Maduro is pretty sure there is some substance to Trump

Tell Ed Harley on Texags...Trump has no substance -

-Nicolas Maduro, probably, on his unsanctioned flight to the USS Iwo Jima.



You can still cling to your ******ed narrative that Trump is falling asleep during meetings though, and Ignore the fact that the vegetable that you voted for was too stupid and sleepy to even convene said meetings, or had his dumb**** wife sit at the head of the table.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 12:54p, 1/3/26
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TAMUallen said:
one safe place said:
TAMUallen said:
Dan Scott said:
US taxpayers will fund the rebuild of Venezuela, the oil companies will keep the profits. The American way.


Venezuelan dollars will rebuild Venezuela.

Sure, money will be made by restoring operations that had been captured previously. Venezuela exports to enemies of the US will now stop and also lower oil prices here.

Thought it was said China will still get their oil? Or was that not accurate?

Unsure on specifics. Also, unsure as to what that means actually. What degree of oil interests are going to be returned to old owners? Will that mean that current Chinese agreements are no longer valid? Or is it a simple, China may buy oil as of now moving forward

I think there are multiple facets (1) Venezuelan oil will now follow US embargo policy, meaning if you are on the naughty list, you have to find your oil elsewhere (2) If you are not, you can buy it at market prices.

In short, any quid-pro-quo going on with Russia/China/Iran is over and the money received for the oil will go to the companies who produce it and the people of the country.... no longer to the dictator's coffer.
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In reply to captkirk • 12:55p, 1/3/26
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captkirk said:
Ed Harley said:
BadMoonRisin said:
Ed Harley said:
Can't wait to be "running another country." Isn't this exactly what Trumpers voted against?


Typical Trumper retort. No substance, just like Trump.

Maduro is pretty sure there is some substance to Trump


Ed prefers dead brain Biden. Must have made some money off him while he was president. Being cut off pisses a lot of liberals off.
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1:01p, 1/3/26
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Somebody knew. Probably some helo pilot
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In reply to We fixed the keg • 1:05p, 1/3/26
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Another reason why Cuba is now on the clock. They were getting heavily discounted oil from VZ. I'm quite sure their regime is ****ting their pants right now and has been on the horn to Russia all night and morning trying to get them to commit more resources.
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1:06p, 1/3/26
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It isn't over until Judge Boasberg rules.
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In reply to YouBet • 1:07p, 1/3/26
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YouBet said:
Another reason why Cuba is now on the clock. They were getting heavily discounted oil from VZ. I'm quite sure their regime is ****ting their pants right now and has been on the horn to Russia all night and morning trying to get them to commit more resources.

Good point. Cuba and Columbia are have to both be highly concerned at the moment.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 1:08p, 1/3/26
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Not sure why he gets due process like he's a citizen. Should run into some rough waves and have to ditch cargo.
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In reply to YouBet • 1:08p, 1/3/26
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Another reason why Cuba is now on the clock. They were getting heavily discounted oil from VZ. I'm quite sure their regime is ****ting their pants right now and has been on the horn to Russia all night and morning trying to get them to commit more resources.


They gonna use unflagged tankers?
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In reply to samurai_science • 1:09p, 1/3/26
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samurai_science said:
Concerned Moderates out in force, lol. While Biden was in power they hibernated.

Not trying to be that guy, but... the proper terminology is "brumated".

Mammals hibernate. Reptiles brumate.

HTH
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In reply to YouBet • 1:11p, 1/3/26
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YouBet said:
Another reason why Cuba is now on the clock. They were getting heavily discounted oil from VZ. I'm quite sure their regime is ****ting their pants right now and has been on the horn to Russia all night and morning trying to get them to commit more resources.

Russia won't or can't do squat while we have so many military assets in the area.

And this was not an invasion of VZ eventhough some libs use that terminology. Maduro should be happy he was not taken out by the CIA to a black site for rendition.
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Who?mikejones! said:
Rubio gets it. He has gotten more and more impressive in his brief stint as SOS. He's going to be a formidable candidate in 2028.
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