Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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Who?mikejones! said:

Picked a poor night not to texags

No kidding!

I didn't realize that Maduro had entered the transfer portal.
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Farmer_J said:


I guess this inevitably means that the US will be taking in millions of Venezuela refugees


We already did this, the worst of the worst.
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valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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B-1 83 said:

Farmer_J said:


I guess this inevitably means that the US will be taking in millions of Venezuela refugees


Quite the opposite. Perhaps many will go home now that Maduro is gone.

Over 8 million have left Venezuela this past decade, I don't think some here understand the scale of how many left. I bet less than 10% ever go back. And the refugee crisis worsens.
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fc2112 said:

I would hope Florida

Or Texas!
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Its both. Buts it definitely drugs. And its definitely oil. And its definitely about china and Russia. And Colombia for that matter.
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I read that the Mexican president released a big mad statement about it. Probably because if they can do this to a president, they can do this to cartels.
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oh now all the lame F16 crews wake up lol

NBC NEWS is literally un@#$#@$#@$ believable!

literally the very first question from leftist anchor to leftist reporter:

"are you safe?"

is your family safe?

reporter: "we can't confirm anything right now"

"people have to go to shelter"

"is there electricity?"

"this could get very scary for people in Caracas" is what the AMERICAN anchor just said!!

can anyone imagine reporting from Berlin in 1944: "the German people have to run for shelter and it is very scary for them"?!?!
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TommyBrady said:

The message is clear if you kill Americans we will find you and arrest you or we will kill you.


*unless you are Chinese sending Fentanyl to be sold on American streets
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94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.




I suggest you watch this to understand the problem better.
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I am here for Monroe Doctrine 2.0. This is awesome and the kind of military intervention I wholly support. VZ's illegals actions directly impact us and kill Americans and it's in our backyard.

For everyone else who can't see the big picture, this is about removing Iranian, Russian, and Chinese influence from the Western Hemisphere. And if VZ was complicit in election shenanigans in 2020 then that's another good reason to take out Maduro.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cuba now falls on its own as they were almost wholly dependent on VZ oil. And this will further degrade Iran as well.

Here's hoping for the 3 for 1!
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This is what america first actually looks like, fwiw.
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94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.
I also see this as an immigration issue. Making it safer for people to go home.
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Dammit Trump. Bringing more South Americans into the country.
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YouBet said:

I am here for Monroe Doctrine 2.0. This is awesome and the kind of military intervention I wholly support. VZ's illegals actions directly impact us and kill Americans and it's in our backyard


Roosevelt Corollary

I'm Gipper
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Saxsoon said:

One of the positives I saw in Trump was the no new wars stuff.

Guess I was wrong


But we're not at war
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PaulsBunions said:

So is bombing another country not an act of war? It seems like the new definition of "war" is "whenever Congress says we're at war".
Congress has intentionally abdicated this responsibility for decades, preferring instead to display fake outrage in public for political points with their constituents. Congress has encouraged this "new definition" themselves. Wake up.
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As someone who helped get rid of one bad dictator in Iraq in 2003 and watched that region go into even more of a **** hole, I'm not so sure on this one.

I do like that we went in, got him and for now got out. Would have saved tens of thousands in Iraq for virtually the same result.
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Jeeper79 said:

I read that the Mexican president released a big mad statement about it. Probably because if they can do this to a president, they can do this to cartels.


Yeah she tweeted about it at 6:15. Typical recurrence to the UN Charter, Mexico is non-interventionist, peaceful, etc. Unsaid is "oh crap, how much dirt does Maduro have on Morena?!?"

https://www.milenio.com/internacional/gobierno-sheinbaum-condena-ataques-eu-a-venezuela-detener-maduro
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94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.

It is about drugs, but also way more reasons. Yes, China and oil. Specifically, oil going to Iran, Cuba, and China. Also, about the changing of political/economic structures in countries changing.
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Who?mikejones! said:

94chem said:

valvemonkey91 said:

Pylon Cam said:

The "no new wars" president strikes again


Well, that's up to Venezuela isn't it? He told them that th drugs being shipped to the USA was going to stop one way or the other. They are killing THOUSANDS of Americans DAILY. I stand with Trump on this. Mexico should get the same treatment.

How can so many people blue star this? This is about oil and China, not drugs. If it was about drugs, we'd be invading Mexico, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador.




I suggest you watch this to understand the problem better.

You want me, a 53 YO person, to watch an hour long video to understand that Chavez destroyed the middle class, created a majority class of have-nots, got them to agree that the path to prosperity was through killing the golden goose of international development and national wealth through asset nationalization and wealth redistribution, only to end in predictable abject poverty? Let me just save an hour and give you the summary.

That still doesn't mean that Venezuela is flooding the US with drugs.

Here's something for you on Venezuela, one of the best books I've ever read:

Spirit of the Rainforest, 3rd Edition: A Yanomam Shaman's Story: Ritchie, Mark Andrew: 9780964695290: Amazon.com: Books

Ritchie's other book, God In the Pits (endorsed by Donald Trump), is also a good read.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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If he truly negotiated his way out to the US, and essentially turned state's witness, then a lot of leaders in that part of the world are pretty ****ed.
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ttu_85 said:

BillYeoman said:

B-1 83 said:

Farmer_J said:


I guess this inevitably means that the US will be taking in millions of Venezuela refugees


Quite the opposite. Perhaps many will go home now that Maduro is gone.


You are right. And it isn't like Venezuelans were just hanging out in a Leftists Utopia under Chavez/Maduro. About 1/3 (9 million) left Venezuala. Largest exodus of a population ever without a war.

A lot will go back. Especially those in countries surrounding Venezuela

This. Millions get to go home to what was once the most prosperous nation in South America, well until they voted for that socialist pig Chavez. Hopefully they've learned an obvious lesson.


Exactly: you might vote your way into socialism, but you (or your bad orange neighbor) have to shoot your way out.
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GeorgiAg said:

Dammit Trump. Bringing more South Americans into the country.

They are already here.
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G Martin 87 said:

PaulsBunions said:

So is bombing another country not an act of war? It seems like the new definition of "war" is "whenever Congress says we're at war".
Congress has intentionally abdicated this responsibility for decades, preferring instead to display fake outrage in public for political points with their constituents. Congress has encouraged this "new definition" themselves. Wake up.


Exactly. And SCOTUS has backed it up by not declaring the open-ended AUMFs as unconstitutional delegation of congressional authority.
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Now do Iran! Now do Pakistan!
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jt2hunt said:

GeorgiAg said:

Dammit Trump. Bringing more South Americans into the country.

They are already here.


I know. It's a joke man.
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Yesterday said:

As someone who helped get rid of one bad dictator in Iraq in 2003 and watched that region go into even more of a **** hole, I'm not so sure on this one.

I do like that we went in, got him and for now got out. Would have saved tens of thousands in Iraq for virtually the same result.


The one thing it has going for it is that it is not a fourth world Islamic culture. It's a generally Christian based culture that used to be the most successful in South America. There are millions of people still alive who remember what they can be. The Islamic world does not have that muscle memory. VZ does.
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YouBet said:

I am here for Monroe Doctrine 2.0. This is awesome and the kind of military intervention I wholly support. VZ's illegals actions directly impact us and kill Americans and it's in our backyard.

For everyone else who can't see the big picture, this is about removing Iranian, Russian, and Chinese influence from the Western Hemisphere. And if VZ was complicit in election shenanigans in 2020 then that's another good reason to take out Maduro.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cuba now falls on its own as they were almost wholly dependent on VZ oil. And this will further degrade Iran as well.

Here's hoping for the 3 for 1!


Mexico has in the past, and will continue to, send them a Pemex vessel now and then to keep their commie fellow-travelers in bidness.
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The Chinooks were probably flown in as either a QRF or to pickup the teams after the operation, after all the anti-air assets were destroyed. Based on the what we're seeing, this has to be JSOC, so either CAG or DevGru, who probably infilled by water, land, or HALO.
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Who else was expecting a slow news day.
 
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