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King Me
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Answered a few questions, last 2 eps should be great
heisatouchdown
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Wow. That has to be the best episode of the series so far... I had several points I had stored up, but after the final 20? minutes or so I can't even remember what they were. That was easily one of the best hours I've watched in a long time and I am going to have to re-watch that again.

The only two things I remember clearly:
How did Woody manage to convince the staff to let himself get paid for this show? I mean cmon...

Michelle Monahan: dat asssssss
R0GUE
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The part where he told the woman with Munchausen by proxy she should kill herself was so effed up that it made the entire episode for me. That plus learning about the giant with scars was pretty important.
Complete Idiot
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Not disappointing. We had Tuttle, the revival tent reverend, Cohle/hart breakup, Cohle/hart reunion, clear evidence what Cohle has been up to, and intro to the two investigators reuniting and finishing it.

I not sure I understand Cohle motivation to reunite with Marty though.
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Hmmm, that seems pretty obvious. Cohle wants to know what the cops asked Marty and what his answers were.

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snowdog90
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Burnet, also learned that cohle and hart are not the killers. Most already knew this, but this ep is the death of those theories. Also the revival preacher is innocent.

Tuttle is scum and most likely killed by cohle.

Btw, revival preacher part was incredible. "i lost heart." Such a good show.
Complete Idiot
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Cohle knows what they asked Marty. And he is focused on investigation. Based on history not sure why he would think Marty could add to investigation. Marty is out of the force but perhaps his PI database connections are needed. Also might have been showing him crime photos of his daughter in the preview?
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Tuttles office doors were creepy as F***.

You guys were right about the girl being alive, I must have missremembered it
Complete Idiot
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Tuttle had on a yellow tie and handkerchief
snowdog90
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Wow, the yellow king.
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Bam
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decent bridge episode
Big Al 1992
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Great episode
Woody should be doing this show for free!

Questions - man with scars same asan mentioned earlier with "shiny face" - who do we think this is? Lawn mower man? Someone we don't know yet? like when Rust asked if crazy girl if there were more and she screamed " his faaacccceee"?
Why would Tuttle be supporting and covering up crazy cult murder ring?
How deep is the cover up - obviously the Sargent who suspended Rust is in on the murders/coverup - he learned very quickly that Rust paid the reverend a visit?
Does Hart/woody's wife know what Rust and Hart are up to or investigating - she didn't give up any info including the affair?

Gonna be a great final 2 episodes.
Sher Thing
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Good read about the ending of ep. 6.

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Does Cohle suspect Hart? Sheeeeit. There's nothing to indicate that, but Cohle in 2012 is playing his cards pretty close to the vest. We know that in 2002 he's all over Tuttle, working his way up to a confrontation with the governor's cousin after tracking down the former revival tent preacher Joel Theriot (the stellar Shea Whigham). Theroit, who's in a place in his life where he uses a bedpan for an ashtray, cops to his discovery of child pornography snuff photos in a book of letters from a 12th century Franciscan mystic, Telios Del Lorca, who is either fictional or too obscure for Google to turn up his name.
Knowing how it all went down, it's still anyone's guess what happens next between Cohle and Hart. It's obvious Cohle has been up to a lot more than drinking in his shack on his days off, but what has Hart been doing in the past decade? We know he's a private detective, by why leave CID in the first place? Rewatching the preceding episodes, it's possible to interpret his role in the Lange investigation as obstructionist—unwilling to consider Cohle's theories, suggesting the murder was "a retard job," and then blowing Ledoux's head off before he can talk. The Company Men assure Maggie "we're not looking at [Hart] and nobody wants to." What's that old saying about the detective's curse? "Solution was right under my nose, but I was paying attention to the wrong clues."
This is all idle speculation, and it seems more plausible that the killers responsible for the recent Lake Charles murder will be traced back through Tuttle and that landscaper down to the "place down south where rich men go to devil worship, sacrifice women and children," as Charlie Lange put it. Can't wait. With two episodes left, there's still an enormous amount of ground to cover, and I've got zero evidence to suggest that Hart is familiar with any of it. There is, after all, a world of difference between a human tampon and a multiple homicide co-conspirator. For now it's probably safe to assume he's loading that handgun in the final scene of "Haunted House" simply for his own protection.
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Kudos to Bendover for being the first to call Cohle banging the wife! (At least I'm pretty sure it was Bendover on page 5 or 6)
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The guy with the green ears in the drawings is the lawnman mowing the grass at the closed school. Another great episode.

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Green Ears are the sound mufflers lawn guys wear
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Great episode
Woody should be doing this show for free!


for real, MM is killing it.
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"Tuttle had on a yellow tie and handkerchief"

I completely missed that. Another reason I have to watch these episodes a couple of times during the week.
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perhaps the guy with the facial scars grows a beard to cover them up.

I also wouldn't rule out the old state police chief with the white hair & white beard. He was there in 1995 and still in 2002.

and there's still the possiblity of Marty's father-in-law. That would bring Maggie into the last 2 episodes in a prominent way
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The last shot of the broken taillight, that was broken 10 years earlier by Cohle throwing Hart into it, was so, so good.

This is master class acting with writing and cinematography that are second to none.
R0GUE
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One thing I also noticed but have no idea what it means, if anything, but when Cohle throws Marty into the back of his truck it busts the tail-light, and then in the flash forward at the end, Cohle still hasn't gotten the tail-light fixed; they went out of the way to highlight that in the final scene.

Maybe just a symbolic way of saying Cohle and Hart still haven't repaired their relationship? Like Cohle still hasn't forgotten or forgiven?



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Anagrammatic Nudist
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Beat you by 3 minutes.
R0GUE
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Wow, now I look effing stupid but I swear I was writing my post at the same time as the guy above me.
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If anyone happens to be interested, the girl that Woody Harrelson saved from the chicken ranch that he meets up with again is a main character in the Cinemax series Banshee. She plays an Amish girl that likes to have lots of sex. Because it is Cinemax.
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Based on history not sure why he would think Marty could add to investigation.


Maybe that he discovered Marty's FIL was part of the rich old man's club. Or that it's a miniseries that has had so much tension and buildup between the two that we deserve some catharsis in regards to their relationship.
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Random thoughts:

1) I'm just going to go ahead and say what I have been thinking for awhile but didn't want to say, anybody saying it is Hart at this point is just straight talking out of their ass. I'll never say never, but it's just too much of a stretch at this point. The guy threw-up from laying a beat down on some 20 year old men, how is he going to have the stomach to cut somebody up?

2) I'd say it's almost equally unlikely it's Cohle, too, especially if you consider the upcoming previews.

3) I really enjoyed this episode. Cohle's line to the mom to kill herself was greatness.

4) Was hoping Cohle wouldn't start looking at a picture of a dead girl while he was banging Hart's wife.

5) And Hart's wife can go f-herself. Just so, so wrong of her. Even if you think Hart deserved it, Cohle didn't. And man, does Hart's family hate him. That's a man that really needed a son.



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6) I'm wondering what is on that film that gets Hart so upset, maybe video of his oldest daughter? I kept thinking at some point you'd find out his daughter was in one of these Tuttle schools, but you have to think he would've said something in that office with Cohle and the chief when Cohle was laying out his evidence if that was the case.

7) I think what you're going to see is that this wash-out look from Cohle isn't an act. I think the guy has allowed solving this case to take over his entire life. You got a preview of that when it showed him drinking alone in his apartment with everything on the walls and the antlers on the table. I think it's going to be like that x1000 when he takes Hart back to his place after they have a drink. I keep saying it, but too many on here think Cohle is in control, when I think the guy is just as messed up as Hart, if not more so.

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Maybe just a symbolic way of saying Cohle and Hart still haven't repaired their relationship? Like Cohle still hasn't forgotten or forgiven?



I think it's that, and I also think Cohle is a broke mo and that's why he told Marty he was going to buy the drink.
TCTTS
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If anyone happens across that closing credits song, please post the artist. It was hauntingly good. It's apparently a cover of "Sign of the Judgement" by The McIntosh County Shouters, which played at some point earlier in the series. Can't find this new cover version anywhere, not even a mention of it.


*** EDIT ***

Finally found some info on it. It's "Sign of the Judgement" by Cassandra Wilson. Produced by T Bone Burnett. Recorded in December specifically for the show. Hopefully it'll hit iTunes soon.

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oragator
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One of the best hours of TV I can remember watching.
It basically showed the demise of all the major characters with tons of emotion, set the murder story on its path to conclusion, left a cliffhanger and did it all with almost perfect acting and writing, keeping that dark undercurrent that makes the show.

Pretty amazing.
mwp02ag
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Could it be a clue that Cohle hasn't been around? No way he could drive around for that long and stay "off the grid" meaning the truck sat while he was gone.

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R0GUE
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I don't think Hart is the Yellow King, or even complicit in any murders, but I think somehow he is involved through either his nativity or "inattention" if you will (remember he called that his greatest sin) - which is why what he sees on the video must get him so riled up. Somehow he could have stopped these killings but he failed to do so.

One theory i have is that when he found religion through Promise Keepers, he must have gotten involved with Tuttle's church.
AgLaw
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I missd the reference to Cohle watching a video. What video?
Complete Idiot
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It was Hart, not Cohle, maybe a photo, not video, and it was in the previews for next week's show. Which can be hard to interpret without context or even intentionally misleading.
Bunk Moreland
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I hate discussing previews. I never watch them because they are intentionally misleading. AMC shows are the worst with it.
 
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