AlaskanAg99 said:

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I 100% believe this is arson. Theres no way this many fires erupt in 24hrs without lightening strikes.

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The didn't all just randomly start all at once.

All it takes is an ember from one to ignite another. They mentioned last night an ember can travel 2-3 miles and still ignite a fire.

Then that one gets going and the cycle continues.

And these large fires create their own microclimates with winds that shift randomly and unexpectedly so there isn't one prevailing wind direction.

AlaskanAg99 said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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I 100% believe this is arson. Theres no way this many fires erupt in 24hrs without lightening strikes.

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40-80 mph winds is a lot more effective than arson

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Except fires are starting upwind. So that doesn't make sense. Fires starting downwind, yes.

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They've been talking about swirling winds throughout

Houston Lee said:

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So who gets the government housing? Illegals or California home owners that just lost their homes to fires?

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Illegals, without question.

Moral High Horse said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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May get to the 405?

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That skit was so incredible if you know people from LA. Even the intro is enough to stitch me up every single time.

And the great song choice of "Ventura Highway."

Build It said:

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Also hasn't rained there in like 8 months.

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I think the geological record shows droughts as long as 80+ years in that area, it could happen again.

M4 Benelli said:

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AggieDruggist89 said:

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I will echo,

Yes, I've been doing chores around the house up north state CA, and it is beautiful and conservative here.

But we spent the weekend with 10 of our buddies in a golf outing in Monterey - pebble beach (Poppy) and spent a day in Carmel by the Sea (Most unique and best city in the USA imo). There's nothing like it.

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Off Topic, but what did you like so much about Carmel? I found it over hyped. Trip was only saved by staying at Eastwood's fantastic Mission Ranch.

Back on Topic, I live near the Eaton Fire in Pasadena. The scene is apocalyptic.

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I went in 1984 to Las Gatos for work. We went to Camel and had dinner at the Hogs Breath and did the 13 mile drive through Pebble Beach. It was beautiful, but did not make me want to move there. I was perfectly happy in my home state of Florida. I live in Colleyville Texas now and like it although I miss my beautiful gulf beaches.

is the mayor back in town?

inauguration over

Ag_07 said:

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AlaskanAg99 said:

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I 100% believe this is arson. Theres no way this many fires erupt in 24hrs without lightening strikes.

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The didn't all just randomly start all at once.

All it takes is an ember from one to ignite another. They mentioned last night an ember can travel 2-3 miles and still ignite a fire.

Then that one gets going and the cycle continues.

And these large fires create their own microclimates with winds that shift randomly and unexpectedly so there isn't one prevailing wind direction.

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Im well aware how wild land fire works. I was part of San Diego County response. It's extremely unusual for so many fires to start so far apart. Only after the fires are extinguished will an investigation be able to determine cause.

Just saying this is highly unusual.

W said:

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is the mayor back in town?

inauguration over

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Yes and there's already an election crushing video of her out there saying nothing when a reporter was peppering her.

Build It said:

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Lots of bad information on the news. I've been speaking with a friend in Malibu. A few of our favorite spots the news reported burnt are not.

A young Aggie friend of the family is being evacuated now. Wife's 85 year old Aunt in Hacienda Heights seems to be ok and no evacuation orders.

For you hard asses saying you don't feel for these folks. I know a lot of Aggies out there. Many will or have lost their homes. Think hard about your words. They sure has hell didn't vote for any of those people. They have successful business there.

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What parts of Malibu are indeed burned? It's one of my favorite visits on the globe and lots of friends there too

These people voted for the idiots that have left them out in the fires alone.. you get what you vote for. LAs crap politics are showing their ugly face

Hard to say, he's in Malibu Hills. He's fine but evacuated.

I'm thinking the fire a couple months ago there burned a lot of the fuel for a break.

Is anybody going to be surprised months from now when they quietly admit that it was arsonists and not global warming that caused the fires? But since it starts a conversation…

New "Sunset Fire" in Hollywood. My buddy just had to evacuate.

zgolfz85 said:

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Build It said:

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Lots of bad information on the news. I've been speaking with a friend in Malibu. A few of our favorite spots the news reported burnt are not.

A young Aggie friend of the family is being evacuated now. Wife's 85 year old Aunt in Hacienda Heights seems to be ok and no evacuation orders.

For you hard asses saying you don't feel for these folks. I know a lot of Aggies out there. Many will or have lost their homes. Think hard about your words. They sure has hell didn't vote for any of those people. They have successful business there.

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What parts of Malibu are indeed burned? It's one of my favorite visits on the globe and lots of friends there too

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Today I saw Topanga Canyon and just saw a big strip of beachfront homes on the PCH in Malibu had all burned down

M4 Benelli said:

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New "Sunset Fire" in Hollywood. My buddy just had to evacuate.

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Is this the new Hollywood Hills fire? It's within a mile or two of the Hollywood sign.

The fire doesn't seem to be traveling North at least yet. It's been 3 miles from Pepperdine all day.

AgCat93 said:

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M4 Benelli said:

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New "Sunset Fire" in Hollywood. My buddy just had to evacuate.

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Is this the new Hollywood Hills fire? It's within a mile or two of the Hollywood sign.

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More than likely. He lives a hop skip from a trailhead.

I'm thinking arson in Hollywood.

At least all those ****ty campers permanently parked on the PCH are no longer.

I saw on the news that Malibu Village was all burning. That's why we thought NOBU had burned. All those beachfront homes across the PCH are gone I think. The University is right up the road from there but doesn't seem to have made it there. We'll see if Santa Monica is still there tomorrow.

It's 9 miles from Pacific Palisades to Pepperdine.

If the fires have travelled that distance, that is impressive.

It's a mile and half from Pepperdine to Malibu Village which burnt to the ground.

Bunk Moreland said:

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W said:

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is the mayor back in town?

inauguration over

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Yes and there's already an election crushing video of her out there saying nothing when a reporter was peppering her.

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To a sane world, yes.
In california, she will get re-elected. And if there are no homes and families left, the dead will vote her in.

I don't understand why they don't have/ use numerous diesel powered water pumps and use the ocean water.
Makes zero sense to me that all these very expensive beach front homes are burning up with " no water " available.

A remarkably wet kickoff to Northern California's rainy season has coincided with a desperately dry fall in Southern California a huge disparity, perhaps unprecedented, between the haves and have-nots of rainfall.

Los Angeles usually gets several inches of rain by now, halfway into the rainy season, but it's only recorded a fifth of an inch downtown since July, its second driest period in almost 150 years of record-keeping. The rest of Southern California is just as bone-dry.

At the same time, much of the northern third of the state has weathered nearly two months of storms, flooding and even tornadoes. Santa Rosa, north of San Francisco, has received more rain than nearly any other city in California nearly two times its average rainfall to date. At the city's airport, almost 7 inches fell on Nov. 20 alone, an all-time daily record.

In California climatology, only one prediction is downright easy to make: Summers will be dry across most of the state. But California's winters are extremely variable, and how the next three months historically the wettest of most years will unwind is anyone's guess.

Increasingly pronounced weather extremes have been a growing area of interest among scientists and state officials, who frequently cite "weather whiplash" "wetter wets" and "drier dries" as one of the most pressing climate-related challenges facing California.

Mid-winter wildfires are just one potential outcome of this climate pattern. Increasingly erratic and unpredictable water cycles are another. California's intricate system of reservoirs, canals and pumping stations was built to accommodate winter rainfall followed by a steady flow of snowmelt in the summer.

California's crazy rain: a stark north-south gap - CalMatters

Newest update and analysis from Zeke...

Has there been any speculation to the original cause of the first fire?

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Has there been any speculation to the original cause of the first fire?

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lot's of speculation. Calfire won't say for days even if they know it's arson.

Some of these are man made, just by the numbers and locations...

I'll go ahead and speculate it's the Iranians. Because **** them.

moonshadows Malibu...site of Sid Farkas' HS senior prom dinner...gone