My experience in the last couple of years has been a decrease in night flights, in northern CA, and during summer conditions. Nothing like the the current LA conditions.

I followed the Park Fire in Norcal last summer. Also wind driven and traveled faster than anyone expected. Flights would stop every night though. The fire would slow at night, under the conditions at the time (winds dying down and humidity up). I didn't know if that was why flying stopped or if it were because of the additional risks. Flying that low in those kind of conditions, esp the dark probably didn't out-way the limited benefit of fighting a fire, slowed at night.

These winds, the hills and the thermal effects have got to be a challenge.

The other thing is this isn't "fire season" so assets are less and will probably take longer to get going.

Do you sleep? I'm in PCT time and up late just winding down but headed to sleep.

Where's Trudoh newsome in all this? Somebody give him a tow sack and a barrel of water and let him pit it out! Worthless SOB

This is going to destroy the already honked insurance market there

Have they figured out a narrative to blame this on Trump yet?

🚨 #BREAKING: Los Angeles fire hydrants are OUT OF WATER because the county REFUSED to refill reservoirs, per Rick Caruso

“You can’t fight a fire without water!”

The Mayor did ZERO prep despite the advanced warning of winds and fire risk.

This is EXACTLY what happened on Maui! pic.twitter.com/fBj445yGgw

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 8, 2025

Priorities stated in her bio below.

Refilling the water reservoirs would have been a welcome priority, too, but I guess she had too much on her plate promoting diversity. pic.twitter.com/7GXgBR3RO2

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) January 8, 2025

pic.twitter.com/vfS7dHTQBz

— FirePhotoGirl (@FirePhotoGirl) January 8, 2025

This is the view from my home in Manhattan Beach.

The far left policies of Democrats in California are literally burning us to the ground.

Stop voting for people who won’t use common sense water management and forest policies.

I’m pissed off.
You should be, too. pic.twitter.com/GYGu0EojU6

— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) January 8, 2025

What a pathetic state California is.

That is some scary *****

El Gallo Blanco said:

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We joke about Cali falling into the ocean, and it does have a bunch of dipsh**ts running and residing in that state, but regardless, I hate to see this. The most beautiful state imo...and TONS of good friendly people there out that we often ignore in discussion.

praying for them.

The thing that p*sses me off though, is that so many have been brainwashed into thinking this is a "climate change" thing...and it will just further reinforce false and dangerous narratives in the minds of millions of wackjobs.

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Of course they're brainwashed. Literally every single extreme weather phenomenon in the last 30 years has been blamed on global warming/climate change. They're convinced.

And there it is….comparisons to Maui. Energy weapons and land grabs!

Jock 07 said:

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Apologies if already covered but is Pepperdine in the path?

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Pepperdine is a long way from Pacific Palisades so they'll probably get covered in smoke and ash but they're probably not in danger of catching fire.

While reading your post thoughts of that 90s movie Always came to mind. Those are some brave pilots.

She's proud to host LA's first LGBBQ of the city.

Priorities stated in her bio below.

Refilling the water reservoirs would have been a welcome priority, too, but I guess she had too much on her plate promoting diversity. pic.twitter.com/7GXgBR3RO2

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) January 8, 2025

Malibu is completely on fire. pic.twitter.com/h2EL4QyB67

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) January 8, 2025

These SoCal fires are preventable.

The far lefties controlling Sacramento have left us with forest policies that are dangerous and limited water resources to respond properly.

We live on the ocean but are told to stop watering our lawns and take quick showers.

We don’t…

— Richard Grenell (@RichardGrenell) January 8, 2025

Dan Scott said:

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Wow

Joe Rogan was just talking about the likelihood of an large uncontrollable fire in L.A. #PalisadesFire pic.twitter.com/b02UBVqi1g

— Hexed (@Hexed79) January 8, 2025

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I was just listening to this yesterday. I didn't know about the fires until this morning. I think one of his guests said fire insurance for his home (in that area) was $125,000/year.

The fire maps havent been updated since last night since aircraft is grounded. Was 2,921ac. When the aircraft with the right sensors can get airborne again this will have exploded.

Now the human aspect is developing as thousands flee...where are they going? Evac rest homes, special care homes and hospitals become very problematic. And as thus grows in a dense housing area it's going to get so much worse.

Since 3 fires have sprung up independently, I'm betting 99% arson. Now if it's Iran, that will be very hard to prove but I don't think anything happened overnight in the ME. So odds go up.

I lived through the '03 Cedar Fire and '07 Witch Creek Fire and was part of county level planning. LA is worst case scenario. Winds are supposed to be 60mph+ through tomorrow and at 0% containment...

If more fires south start popping up....

Son called and said possible evacuation last night but we've not heard from the school. He'll go to my nephews in Orange County. This is if fire jumps 405. But looking at the weather and wind direction from NNE, fire will move towards the ocean and or Santa Monica. I think.

Wind direction was always what we pay attention to as where the wind blows, that's where he fire goes.

Swan Song said:

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Is this for real?

🚨 WTF?

Firefighters arguing with each other during pacific palisades fire.

Firefighter crew asks why the historical building is more important to protect versus the high school and homes he’s currently focused on.

Response given:
“Our tax dollars pay for it you little… pic.twitter.com/ar82b1krGL

— Frank Fighting For Faith & Freedom 🕊️🇺🇸 (@thinktankfranks) January 8, 2025

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Sounds like the historical building is the Getty Museum.

What's the best tv coverage on this?

Aust Ag said:

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Swan Song said:

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Is this for real?

🚨 WTF?

Firefighters arguing with each other during pacific palisades fire.

Firefighter crew asks why the historical building is more important to protect versus the high school and homes he’s currently focused on.

Response given:
“Our tax dollars pay for it you little… pic.twitter.com/ar82b1krGL

— Frank Fighting For Faith & Freedom 🕊️🇺🇸 (@thinktankfranks) January 8, 2025

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Sounds like the historical building is the Getty Museum.

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Getty sits atop next to 405. Without knowing the full story, if Getty burns, fire is jumping 405 into West LA. I think.

High schools are rebuildable. Getty houses invaluable art work from all over the world. A lot of art.

I value education. But... I don't know.

Are we talking about the Getty Villa or the museum tho. I say let the Villa burn...but keep the museum protected. House is near the beach and I think that's where the fire is headed.

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The Kraken said:

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And there it is….comparisons to Maui. Energy weapons and land grabs!

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Always a pleasure to educate libs on the facts of their incompetence:

In Maui, fire hydrants running dry significantly hampered firefighting efforts. This was attributed to inadequate management of water resources by Maui County, which contributed to the rapid spread of the fire.

Why do you always put a smirking emoji? Kinda weird in a Thread like this

T&Ps and hope he makes it out of this unscathed.

I did think it was interesting last night as I was watching things unfold on Fox News a firefighter captain was on reminding people that they don't have to wait for an evac order to leave and with the traffic and congestion it's probably best to leave before you're under an order.

That message may be worth relaying to him.

AggieDruggist89 said:

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Aust Ag said:

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Swan Song said:

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Is this for real?

🚨 WTF?

Firefighters arguing with each other during pacific palisades fire.

Firefighter crew asks why the historical building is more important to protect versus the high school and homes he’s currently focused on.

Response given:
“Our tax dollars pay for it you little… pic.twitter.com/ar82b1krGL

— Frank Fighting For Faith & Freedom 🕊️🇺🇸 (@thinktankfranks) January 8, 2025

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Sounds like the historical building is the Getty Museum.

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Getty sits atop next to 405. Without knowing the full story, if Getty burns, fire is jumping 405 into West LA. I think.

High schools are rebuildable. Getty houses invaluable art work from all over the world. A lot of art.

I value education. But... I don't know.

Are we talking about the Getty Villa or the museum tho. I say let the Villa burn...but keep the museum protected. House is near the beach and I think that's where the fire is headed.

[url=https://postimages.org/][/url]

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I think it was the Getty Villa. Saw video and pictures showing fire on the property, but the primary structures housing the art work there are probably safe. Their Twitter posted that the art there is safe.

The Getty Villa is itself a smaller museum, very beautiful property.

Ag_07 said:

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T&Ps and hope he makes it out of this unscathed.

I did think it was interesting last night as I was watching things unfold on Fox News a firefighter captain was on reminding people that they don't have to wait for an evac order to leave and with the traffic and congestion it's probably best to leave before you're under an order.

That message may be worth relaying to him.

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Thank you!! Great idea.

This is a man made problem. However, it's not due to climate change. It's due to insane environmental policy. Trump spoke about this with Rogan this Summer. Start around 3:40.



Environmentalists have decided a fish is more important then humans. It is further evidence that those people are a threat to humanity.

Langley said:

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Why do you always put a smirking emoji? Kinda weird in a Thread like this

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It's not a smirk.

It's a small smile saying it's going to be ok. Maybe because I've lived in CA for about 2 decades and have lived through wild fires every year. If it's a smirk then because I know what's coming, doubling of my home owners insurance. And I'm back in CA for 3 weeks with one of the primary objectives of fireproofing my property.

Wild fire is actually a natural part of CA climate. Some plants require it to grow. Here's an interactive map that shows historical fires of CA. And the area on fire now actually gets fire a lot. I do hope everyone comes out safe and no one gets hurt.

Fire is destructive. But I've seen the nature recover from it. Right in front of my eyes. Like I said, the CARR fire in 2018 came within 1.5 miles of my house. It devastated our area. But 7 years later, we can hardly tell here was fire in many places.

I'm hoping the fire goes out with minimal destruction.

https://projects.capradio.org/california-fire-history/#5/37.37/-122.6

Great aerial photo:

Los Angeles, today pic.twitter.com/zPntEpizow

— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) January 8, 2025

Dan Scott said:

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Crazy this is getting no coverage. 2nd largest media market and the 24 hour cable news channels are talking about what Trump said instead of live breaking news which should be their specialty.

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Covering live, breaking news like this requires resources. There's a reason CNN would prefer to have talking heads rather than try to maintain a proper global news organization.

$700 bucks each is the going rate correct ?

I suspect when this is all over instead of fixing their problems Newsom will make them worse by getting the state into the insurance business.

So a big supplier of ours in Sylmar is closed due to the Hurst fire being about 1.5 miles north of their plant.

Manager there told me the one good thing about this fire is all the people living in their RVs along the street in front of their plant have found away to get them running and gone someplace else.

fc2112 said:

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So a big supplier of ours in Sylmar is closed due to the Hurst fire being about 1.5 miles north of their plant.

Manager there told me the one good thing about this fire is all the people living in their RVs along the street in front of their plant have found away to get them running and gone someplace else.

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Yeah, I saw a vid of miles of RVs camped along the side of a highway, not in an RV park. Are people living in those things as a permanent resident on the roadside?

Aust Ag said:

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Swan Song said:

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Is this for real?

🚨 WTF?

Firefighters arguing with each other during pacific palisades fire.

Firefighter crew asks why the historical building is more important to protect versus the high school and homes he’s currently focused on.

Response given:
“Our tax dollars pay for it you little… pic.twitter.com/ar82b1krGL

— Frank Fighting For Faith & Freedom 🕊️🇺🇸 (@thinktankfranks) January 8, 2025

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Sounds like the historical building is the Getty Museum.

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Didn't the Getty do something smart a few years back and employ ranchers and hundreds of goats to eat all the surrounding vegetation to create a buffer around it?

I know they did this in the past, and am I just too dense to think that this could be done at scale throughout the canyons at MINIMAL cost? These fires are fueled by dense underbrush that hundreds or thousand of goats could beat back if done consistently.

Who?mikejones! said:

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Those dudes are screwed

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Reports that they were rescued from this inferno #PalisadesFire

— BreakinNewz (@BreakinNewz01) January 8, 2025

Take it for what it's worth. Hope they really did get out.

Logos Stick said:

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fc2112 said:

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So a big supplier of ours in Sylmar is closed due to the Hurst fire being about 1.5 miles north of their plant.

Manager there told me the one good thing about this fire is all the people living in their RVs along the street in front of their plant have found away to get them running and gone someplace else.

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Yeah, I saw a vid of miles of RVs camped along the side of a highway, not in an RV park. Are people living in those things as a permanent resident on the roadside?

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Yes, that is common throughout the LA area. People living in their cars and RVs throughout the city.

nortex97 said:

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LOL. If you see a news story in any way similar to this regarding essential services in a city you live in…move far away.

Los Angeles recently appointed its very 1st female, LGBTQ+ fire chief with the goal of recruiting more women & gay firefighters pic.twitter.com/h8vfAYkbiV

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 8, 2025

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Yeah, I don't get it. Conservatives choose to stay there despite the liberal, woke incompetence in their government. James Woods is about to lose his house. He's a very smart, hardcore conservative. He could have easily sold his house to an insane lefty and moved away long ago. SMH.