MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
The ground ops handling these things must be an impressive thing to watch.
MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
bmks270 said:where were these planes the last 3 days?MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
aggiehawg said:
I have not been paying much attention today but I thought they were beginning to contain these?
Now Brentwood is being evacuated and the fires are growing?
bmks270 said:where were these planes the last 3 days?MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
aggiehawg said:
WOW! They just can't catch a break can they?
He spared James Wood's home but nailed Mel Gibson's. Mel definitely had a misspent youth. Been a Gibson fan since what? 1981?Krombopulos Michael said:aggiehawg said:
WOW! They just can't catch a break can they?
either that or God is going back to his Old Testament roots......
Have never actually watched that. But true story time (well my good friend's story.)Swan Song said:
I always think of Woods in Casino.
This, from 2015, is very much worth reading today. https://t.co/mQ2Snrd3Lw
— Brit Hume (@brithume) January 11, 2025
— MAGA Marine (@Butch_britton1) January 11, 2025
That's a shameSwan Song said:— MAGA Marine (@Butch_britton1) January 11, 2025
thats half the thread read the postHank the Grifter said:
Haven't read the whole thread but have we discussed the fire trucks Oregon sent to Cali being stopped in Sacramento for EMISSIONS INSPECTIONS?!?
That's the most California thing ever and those people deserve everything they are getting.
This is from my friend @ericspiegelman, who served as a commissioner under both Mayor Garcetti (and then Bass, for a moment).
— Justine Bateman (@JustineBateman) January 11, 2025
There is no end to the ball-dropping this week by Karen Bass and her office. pic.twitter.com/yEPJ5pQ9HK
So sad. She is basically a pauper if she is down to her last few millions in cash and just one mansion. I would go as far to say she is now one of the many " Unhoused " in California. The good news is there is a lot of money in whipping up hate for whitey. She will be back on her feet in no time and be able to continue to live FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM ANY AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY!!!!Swan Song said:— MAGA Marine (@Butch_britton1) January 11, 2025
bmks270 said:where were these planes the last 3 days?MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
Smoke and Scan is the best.Krombopulos Michael said:
Live stream......Local guy that covers car chases, police scanners, etc.
His show is definitely not for most of the old army squares on F16.
But he does have good coverage of what's going down.
ABATTBQ11 said:bmks270 said:where were these planes the last 3 days?MarkTwain said:
They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster
Winds and turbulence have kept them at bay. It is incredibly dangerous to fly them even in optimal conditions, but when you have winds on the ground at 40mph and gusting to 80mph or more, they simply cannot do the low and slow passes required without the extreme risk of being slammed into the ground by winds. Also, bear in mind that a firefighting plane dropping tens of thousands of gallons is dropping the majority of its weight, and its thrust, lift, and responsiveness are going to be drastically changing within the seconds that release. A bomber at 30k feet probably won't care much, but a firefighter at 200 feet going over random updrafts and downdrafts because of wildfires, sometimes in a canyon, is going to be in a world of **** trying to stay on target and maintain control.
Southern California's water supplies are well-equipped to support local communities fighting the wildfires. Many of the state’s largest reservoirs are currently at or above their historic average storage levels for this time of year. pic.twitter.com/A7KZRJKBNA
— Governor Newsom (@CAgovernor) January 9, 2025
But Pacific Palisades was offline for months for 'maintenance'Quote:
According the latest hydrologist report, "Major flood control reservoirs are either near their respective top of conservation levels or below." Precipitation has been slow in the first couple of weeks of the year, but the "The statewide accumulated precipitation to end of November 2024 was 5.22 inches, which is 132% of average." The snowpack, which is also where water is stored, and Gavin Newsom lets flow out to the Pacific Ocean to "save" a bait fish, is growing. "The statewide average snow water equivalent (SWE) was 5.1 inches for December 1, which is 168% percent of normal and 19% of April 1 average."
In other words, there's been precipitation remember all those atmospheric rivers? and if there were more storage there would be more water available for drinking and fighting fires.
Good thing they hired that failed PG&E exec for 750K/year to run their reservoirs in LA County:Quote:
In addition to the "investigation" by Newsom, the New York Times reported that the Department of Water and Power, whose job it is to fill the reservoirs, is looking into whether the empty Santa Ynez reservoir in Pacific Palisades made a difference in their fire response. We are not kidding.
See if you can spot a problem for the DWP in the Times' piece.Quote:
Water for the Pacific Palisades is fed by a 36-inch line that flows by gravity from the larger Stone Canyon Reservoir, said Marty Adams, a former general manager and chief engineer at the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. That water line also fills the Santa Ynez Reservoir.
Water from the two reservoirs then sustain the water system for the Pacific Palisades, and also pump systems that fill storage tanks that feed higher-elevation homes in the neighborhood. It was unclear whether officials could have brought the reservoir back online before the fire, after forecasters began warning of dangerous wildfire conditions.
Brother Shamus said:
I take it the fires are still out of control?
Aust Ag said:Brother Shamus said:
I take it the fires are still out of control?
I was wondering the same thing, with all the reinforcements and lower winds. Are people still losing their houses?
Winds still have a very strong offshore flow. Dry air and the winds are still very gusty. They have died down some but them keep picking up again.Aust Ag said:Brother Shamus said:
I take it the fires are still out of control?
I was wondering the same thing, with all the reinforcements and lower winds. Are people still losing their houses?
Aust Ag said:Brother Shamus said:
I take it the fires are still out of control?
I was wondering the same thing, with all the reinforcements and lower winds. Are people still losing their houses?