While true, 20 acres is very small.

NEW: Two men arrested at VP Kamala Harris’ Los Angeles home after police had received a call about a potential break in.

Remarkable.

The Los Angeles Police Department said the call came in around 4:40 a.m.

When police arrived, they found two men on the property dressed in… pic.twitter.com/sgdKHgj0Do

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 12, 2025

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NEW: Two men arrested at VP Kamala Harris’ Los Angeles home after police had received a call about a potential break in.

Remarkable.

The Los Angeles Police Department said the call came in around 4:40 a.m.

When police arrived, they found two men on the property dressed in… pic.twitter.com/sgdKHgj0Do

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 12, 2025

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LMAO.

Consequences!

Nice

Californians were once the early adopters (here) of Japanese cars, maybe they should consult with them about fire suppression systems.

The Japanese build fire defense systems into their properties. Amazing. pic.twitter.com/GivkLLkseJ

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) January 12, 2025

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Californians were once the early adopters (here) of Japanese cars, maybe they should consult with them about fire suppression systems.

The Japanese build fire defense systems into their properties. Amazing. pic.twitter.com/GivkLLkseJ

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) January 12, 2025

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System is only as good as it's water supply.

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That's fine for a very small area. What is the area those 60 sprinklers cover?

I listened to this morning's press conference. After prepare speeches in which they thanked each other, they took questions like "Do you think Trump's animosity toward California will effect the federal goverment's response" and "Is it concerning that you haven't spoken personally with Trump?"

To their credit, at least they answered an emphatic "no" to both questions.

Is this Tony Stark's home?

$83,000,000 home burns down in Pacific Palisades. pic.twitter.com/Hxni8YEvKI

— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) January 12, 2025

Governor Newsom should just come out and say he was just following Joe Biden's "Build Back Better" plan for California.

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Californians were once the early adopters (here) of Japanese cars, maybe they should consult with them about fire suppression systems.

The Japanese build fire defense systems into their properties. Amazing. pic.twitter.com/GivkLLkseJ

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) January 12, 2025

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That's fine for a very small area. What is the area those 60 sprinklers cover?

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The area of the photograph alone is less than 10, and more than 5 acres. Reckon 3-4 sprinklers per acre, so my SWAG is 20 acres for 60 sprinklers. If used in a staggered manner, just like any other "system" it seems it could be developed to cover a broader area. But of course, hilly terrain presents more difficult challenges. Also uncertain how effective in a 80 mph Santa Ana wind environment. But, it should "relatively easy" to simply add to the existing water supply system. But I'm not an engineer, and haven't stayed at a Holiday Inn in years.

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Do you think Trump's animosity toward California will effect the federal goverment's response"

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This is merely a Democrat (most media-types are D's) reporter projecting. They can't help themselves; it only seems natural to them (that he would).

It's not easy if that taps into existing water lines. Can those lines sustain that kind of pressure for that many nozzles? Water pressure has been a major factor fighting these fires

PodSaveAmerica trying to grift people into use ActBlue to donate to charities. Elizabeth Warren posted the same link. The 4% isn't too bad considering credit cards processing fees are 3%+. The more valuable data for ActBlue is personal information so they can mine the data.

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Is this Tony Stark's home?

$83,000,000 home burns down in Pacific Palisades. pic.twitter.com/Hxni8YEvKI

— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) January 12, 2025

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I'll be the first to admit I don't have 100s of millions of dollars... but surprised someone who has the wealth to build a $83MM house in a state prone to wildfires doesn't have some sort of super expensive fire fighting home system.

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Would California allow that? They have so many stupid laws. I had a neighbor from CA that once said the government should be monitoring private water wells for usage because his 30 year old system no longer delivered the pressure he needed for his peaches.

These idiots know and have worked with ActBlue since it was founded by DNC people in 08. Zero reason for it to go through ActBlue. Just info to be sold. And watch advertising or consulting that goes through these yahoos and the charities. Not to mention that the 501c4 can generate "cap space" for non disclosed political donations in proportion to the money they give to charities that can be funneled back to politicians involved in the grift.

Why not just use the water in the pool. Probably more than adequate

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Is this Tony Stark's home?

$83,000,000 home burns down in Pacific Palisades. pic.twitter.com/Hxni8YEvKI

— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) January 12, 2025

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I'll be the first to admit I don't have 100s of millions of dollars... but surprised someone who has the wealth to build a $83MM house in a state prone to wildfires doesn't have some sort of super expensive fire fighting home system.

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Would California allow that? They have so many stupid laws. I had a neighbor from CA that once said the government should be monitoring private water wells for usage because his 30 year old system no longer delivered the pressure he needed for his peaches.

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The state government in Cali was installing meters on some private wells a while back to charge people for the water although they weren't going to maintain anything to do with them. Not sure what happened to that gem.

I know Adam feels safely ensconced in the Senate now, but wow, this is so pathetic a lie I am surprised even he stuck with it today.

Sen. Schiff is getting tanks and a reservoir confused. Political malpractice that Schiff didn’t read the LA Times story a couple of days ago breaking the news that the 117-million gallon reservoir that feeds the tanks in the Palisades was empty and offline during the fire and… https://t.co/YBiBiGWEIn

— Susan Crabtree (@susancrabtree) January 12, 2025

As posted earlier, that tank would not have made a huge difference according to those who run the system and know it. The problem was that pumps could not keep up with the demand to refill the tanks that pressurize the system, which is what he's talking about. No pressure means no water at the hydrant, no matter how much water is in reserve in reservoirs.

It doesn't matter that the Santa Ynez tank has 117 million gallon capacity and these were only 1 million gallon tanks because how much water you have doesn't determine how much pressure it creates, only it's height. There's 0 pressure in 1 million gallon puddle, but that million gallons in a 150' vertical tube and the bottom is now at 65 psi. These tanks act as a buffer to maintain a constant pressure for the water system through their height. If they run dry, the system loses pressure and there's no water available no matter how much is in reserve. Even with another 100 million gallons in the tank, that water is useless unless you can move it to the buffer tanks to provide pressure to move the water to the fire. The Santa Ynez could have helped provide pressure to some of the system below it, but it would not have reduced the strain on the pumps enough that they would have been able to keep up with demand.

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Some evidence emerging a PG&E powerline sparked the Palisades fire. Can't imagine the bankruptcy filing from this one. Again.

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So this is where it gets interesting. PG&E should be de-energizing the lines when high winds are happening. Several years ago this was the cause of a major wildfire when the lines arced and dropped sparks in a remote area. PG&E then had to pay out and in return they raised their fees to cover their losses.

The environmental groups sue to refuse energy company's the ability to maintain their ROWs. So the fuel load builds up and everything will catch fire.

In this area they probably didn't shut down because of the rich people that would *****. And of course they probably don't have emergency generators because of the pollution. So if the cause was powerlines this is going to get crazy complicated.

And of course they aren't allowed to buy them due to seismic issues.

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It's not easy if that taps into existing water lines. Can those lines sustain that kind of pressure for that many nozzles? Water pressure has been a major factor fighting these fires

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It depends entirely upon the volume/pressure available as to how many sprinklers could be on simultaneously of course. It's simply a math problem to solve. They'd hafta be employed in stages; not all at once. They're mainly preventative; not a fire fighting application to extinguish such a firestorm.

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They have the big tankers working now hopefully they can get a handle on this disaster

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where were these planes the last 3 days?

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Winds and turbulence have kept them at bay. It is incredibly dangerous to fly them even in optimal conditions, but when you have winds on the ground at 40mph and gusting to 80mph or more, they simply cannot do the low and slow passes required without the extreme risk of being slammed into the ground by winds. Also, bear in mind that a firefighting plane dropping tens of thousands of gallons is dropping the majority of its weight, and its thrust, lift, and responsiveness are going to be drastically changing within the seconds that release. A bomber at 30k feet probably won't care much, but a firefighter at 200 feet going over random updrafts and downdrafts because of wildfires, sometimes in a canyon, is going to be in a world of **** trying to stay on target and maintain control.

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Watching the people flying these planes and helicopters--nothing but respect!

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Some evidence emerging a PG&E powerline sparked the Palisades fire. Can't imagine the bankruptcy filing from this one. Again.

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So this is where it gets interesting. PG&E should be de-energizing the lines when high winds are happening. Several years ago this was the cause of a major wildfire when the lines arced and dropped sparks in a remote area. PG&E then had to pay out and in return they raised their fees to cover their losses.

The environmental groups sue to refuse energy company's the ability to maintain their ROWs. So the fuel load builds up and everything will catch fire.

In this area they probably didn't shut down because of the rich people that would *****. And of course they probably don't have emergency generators because of the pollution. So if the cause was powerlines this is going to get crazy complicated.

And of course they aren't allowed to buy them due to seismic issues.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna186949

Cause depends on which fire you're talking about. The Pacific Palisades fire seems to have started somewhere without transmission lines, but there are high voltage transmission lines around where the Eaton fire is thought to have started.

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Water is one issue that was a failure

Not maintaining fire breaks failure

Not clearing underbrush failure

Not calling for federal help failure

Power poles that could not stand up to 30 mph winds failure

Homeless/ illegals starting additional fires and looting failure

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Failed to stop the Santa Anna winds.

Failed to diffuse the precipitation over the whole year.

Failed to change the vegetation type to one not so prone to fire when its dry.

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Is this Tony Stark's home?

$83,000,000 home burns down in Pacific Palisades. pic.twitter.com/Hxni8YEvKI

— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) January 12, 2025

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Hate to hear of anyone losing their house but I don't think you could build an uglier home than that. Looks like an office building of some sort. Particularly if you have $83,000,000 to spend.

Lying sack of *****

Always blaming Trump.

WHY didn't you let a dozen firetrucks from Portland in to help with the fires? Apparently, they didn't pass a "smog test"? Tell me again how you're trying to protect California? You think that the thick smog in the air right now isn't damaging? Help the world understand why you…

— Lisa4USA (@lisa5537) January 12, 2025

Should've done what he asked instead of DEI, illegals and climate bull*****

Goodbye Gavin https://t.co/ckVaAFPwRf

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 12, 2025

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Is this Tony Stark's home?

$83,000,000 home burns down in Pacific Palisades. pic.twitter.com/Hxni8YEvKI

— TaraBull (@TaraBull808) January 12, 2025

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Hate to hear of anyone losing their house but I don't think you could build an uglier home than that. Looks like an office building of some sort. Particularly if you have $83,000,000 to spend.

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When you have the money to build an $83M house you build wherever house you want and don't spend a single second worrying about what anyone else thinks.