Cali fires and wind storms

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Looks like they finally got a small fire break established in the Eaton and Palisades fires…
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And also missing that by amplifying and creating names for annual weather events and sensationalizing the coverage and sending non-stop notices, etc you give crazy & nefarious people ideas and the ability to better plan their pyromaniac activities.
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HollywoodBQ said:

Mega Lops said:

So just who is Allison Agsten? She is a nutjob who works for the USC Center for Climate Journalism and Communication and admits that "climate change" has exacerbated the fires in LA.

https://instagr.am/p/DEnJH6RPq-e
I'm absolutely, positively dumber for watching that video.

Reminds me of a girl I met in Australia who got her Masters degree in some sort of Climate Change related field. Then, she couldn't find a job. Ultimately she found a job with an NGO, or in academia somewhere, I can't remember.

The woman posting this video's livelihood is dependent on keeping the hoax going. Just like the race grifters - Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, etc.

And I love the fact that she said she left her home just as the looters were showing up but, let's overlook that for now. Classic Kalifornia.
I remember sitting in a seminar session in Halbouty 101 around 1990 with the new dean of the college of geosciences telling all of us that the hot new thing was climate change research. She explicitly told us that if we wanted to get our research funded that we needed to find a way to tie it to climate change. That gravy train that was starting then has only gotten larger in the last 3 and a half decades (God that hurts to write that). When people's entire livelihood is tied to funding based on the belief that climate change is an existential challenge for mankind, they will do whatever they have to do to make sure that climate change continues to be portrayed as an existential threat.
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Is there a magic number on containment of wildfires where the probability of expansion decreases to where you can be confident?

Obviously every situation is different but for example it may be only X% contained but at that point you can be confident it's not gonna keep growing.
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Here's a pleasant change of pace: Breitbart editor's house in Palisades saved by (anonymous) good samaritans.
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There was no more water in the pipes. But I had noticed that there was water running down the street either from a broken water main, or from firefighting efforts uphill.
I remembered that my son had a bucket of baseballs in the back yard. I dumped out the baseballs and dipped the bucket into the gutter. I then doused the flames along the perimeter first on the old logs of the retaining wall, then on the flaming fence posts. Back and forth, back and forth I went.
I had been doing that for about ten minutes when two guys in a pickup truck saw me and jumped out to help. We found two more buckets and formed a small assembly line. We also put out fires in the trees in the neighbor's yard.
"This is Palisades!" I shouted, moved by the fact that these two strangers, and the anonymous neighbor, had helped me save my house, and my neighbor's.
Soon, we noticed the wind change direction, and black smoke from the school began moving in our direction.
"Time to go," one of the guys said.
It was too late to exchange contact details. "Don't worry," he joked. "We know where you live."
We promised to get together again.
We left, and I continued through the rest of Palisades, dodging fires and power lines. The destruction, in almost every area, was apocalyptic. I felt terrible for friends and neighbors who had lost so much.
I still cannot fathom it nor can I understand why our home remained standing. I could not even know whether the house would survive another night. But I knew it felt good to have tried and to have had our neighbors helping me.
And I have learned of so many similar stories neighbors taking risks to help neighbors.
That is Palisades, and that is why we will rebuild.
Good stuff.
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This is a fantastic thread on societal collapse and what we are seeing.

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nortex97 said:

…,,,
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Basically, California voters passed a law in 1988 called Proposition 103, which made it way harder for insurance companies to operate in the state without getting their asses kicked. On top of requiring insurance companies to get government permission from an elected commissioner before raising rates (I'm suuuuuuure that doesn't distort the market, wink wink), the law makes it far more difficult for actuariesthe math nerds who rake in gobs of money making sure insurance companies don't price their policies too low and, you know, go out of business) to do their jobs.

You know that whole thing about "the future might not look like the past"? Insurance companies in California are only able to use old historical data, not advanced statistical models that account for how the world might be changing (such as southern California becoming hotter or drier or windier).

Insurance companies in Californiaunlike in literally every other state in America!also aren't allowed to pass on the cost of reinsurance (think of reinsurance as big boy insurance policies that little boy insurance companies purchase to pass along the risk of having to make massive payouts after largescale disasters, such as half the city of Los Angeles getting wiped off the face of the earth), which means any insurance company that operates in California pretty much has to eat a big whopping **** sandwich whenever something bad happens. Because of all this, many of the major insurance companiesState Farm, Allstate, USAA, Travelers, Nationwide, all the usual suspects you see advertising with cartoon mascots during the Super Bowlhave reduced coverage across the entire state, and State Farm pulled out of Pacific Palisades entirely.

1,400 of the 9,000 homes in the neighborhood had insurance through the state's insurance company of last resort, a janky government operation called the FAIR Plan. But the FAIR Plan only has around $200 million set aside, and its exposure in Pacific Palisades alone is close to six billion-with-a-B dollars. Whoops! Now pour me another glass of champagne and let's talk about those fire hydrants that somehow ran out of water.

This looks like a perfect example of
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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I expect a new "rebuild LA" tax levied on everything, forever.
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I can see a forest fighting crew chief call in to the command center with the following request:

Hey chief I can cut a break in here on Royal Palm Road I just need your permission in writing to back burn all the 5 million dollar each homes on the road. Fellas are ready we good?
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Ag_07 said:

Is there a magic number on containment of wildfires where the probability of expansion decreases to where you can be confident?

Obviously every situation is different but for example it may be only X% contained but at that point you can be confident it's not gonna keep growing.

Just depends on every situation…I've seen small percentage containment claims fluctuating back to 0% many times in the past…

If I had to venture a pure, semi-educated guess…I'd say that once you start seeing containment numbers north of 25%, crews probably have a pretty decent grasp on things and will gain more and more control from there…
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And out of the ashes, a 'bromance' is born....
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Sid Farkas said:

I expect a new "rebuild LA" tax levied on everything, forever.
With all of the money spent through "HUB vendors" mostly on DEI initiatives that exclude certain demographics from receiving funds.
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Typical Libtard response: let's emote our way out of a complex problem.
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pdc093 said:

And out of the ashes, a 'bromance' is born....



So Canada is sending... Thoughts and prayers Good feelings?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

pdc093 said:

And out of the ashes, a 'bromance' is born....



So Canada is sending... Thoughts and prayers Good feelings?
More valuable than Tots and Pears.
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So Canada is sending... Thoughts and prayers Good feelings?
Maybe this has changed the last few years but I thought Canada required the use of our military transport aircraft for heavy loads?

Even if Canada is offering equipment, how are they going to get it where it is needed
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Didn't Trudeau resign? If so, who exactly does he represent?
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The Super Soaker planes (the one that collided with a drone) are from Canada.

Say what you will about Canada and Trudeau but they've sent some pretty sophisticated and important equipment.
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Didn't know that. Thanks!
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They have C130s and C17s just like the US. Last time California needed help like this quite a bit came in on rail.
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A large reservoir in Pacific Palisades that is part of the Los Angeles water supply system was out of use when a ferocious wildfire destroyed thousands of homes and other structures nearby.
Officials told The Times that the Santa Ynez Reservoir had been closed for repairs to its cover, leaving a 117 million gallon water storage complex empty in the heart of the Palisades.
The revelation comes among growing questions about why firefighters ran out of water while battling the blaze. Numerous fire hydrants in higher-elevation streets of the Palisades went dry, leaving firefighters struggling with low water pressure as they combated the flames.
LINK
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Ag_07 said:

The Super Soaker planes (the one that collided with a drone) are from Canada.

Say what you will about Canada and Trudeau but they've sent some pretty sophisticated and important equipment.


Manufactured in CA but isn't that plane from Bridger Aerospace based in Belgrade, MT?

https://bridgeraerospace.com/
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aggiehawg said:

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So Canada is sending... Thoughts and prayers Good feelings?
Maybe this has changed the last few years but I thought Canada required the use of our military transport aircraft for heavy loads?

Even if Canada is offering equipment, how are they going to get it where it is needed
Wiki claims that their current fleet includes 5 C-17s. Maybe they need us for loads that would require a C-5, but the 17s will carry most of what they would typically be loaning us.
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JFABNRGR said:

Ag_07 said:

The Super Soaker planes (the one that collided with a drone) are from Canada.

Say what you will about Canada and Trudeau but they've sent some pretty sophisticated and important equipment.


Manufactured in CA but isn't that plane from Bridger Aerospace based in Belgrade, MT?

https://bridgeraerospace.com/
Cali has a lease deal that is over 30 years old to get two of them seasonally from Quebec.

'Super Scoopers' firefighting planes arrive from Canada as LA County prepares for peak fire season - ABC7 Los Angeles
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txags92 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

Mega Lops said:

So just who is Allison Agsten? She is a nutjob who works for the USC Center for Climate Journalism and Communication and admits that "climate change" has exacerbated the fires in LA.

https://instagr.am/p/DEnJH6RPq-e
I'm absolutely, positively dumber for watching that video.

Reminds me of a girl I met in Australia who got her Masters degree in some sort of Climate Change related field. Then, she couldn't find a job. Ultimately she found a job with an NGO, or in academia somewhere, I can't remember.

The woman posting this video's livelihood is dependent on keeping the hoax going. Just like the race grifters - Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, etc.

And I love the fact that she said she left her home just as the looters were showing up but, let's overlook that for now. Classic Kalifornia.
I remember sitting in a seminar session in Halbouty 101 around 1990 with the new dean of the college of geosciences telling all of us that the hot new thing was climate change research. She explicitly told us that if we wanted to get our research funded that we needed to find a way to tie it to climate change. That gravy train that was starting then has only gotten larger in the last 3 and a half decades (God that hurts to write that). When people's entire livelihood is tied to funding based on the belief that climate change is an existential challenge for mankind, they will do whatever they have to do to make sure that climate change continues to be portrayed as an existential threat.
Wow. You were onto the scheme in 1990.

I don't think I knew about it for maybe another 15 years.

Looks like the original use of both Global Warming and Climate Change dates back to 1975.
https://cambioclimatico-regatta.org/index.php/en/latest-news/item/when-global-warming-became-climate-change
That's when I was living in Alaska and was concerned (as any 5 y/o could be) about the next ice age.
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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-10/as-flames-raged-in-palisades-a-key-reservoir-nearby-was-offline

117M gallon reservoir completely empty "for repairs", fire departments defunded, insurance policies cancelled, and arsonists arrested. completely incompetent, fat ugly queer liberal women in charge.

hard to call this a "natural" disaster anymore at this point.
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txags92 said:

JFABNRGR said:

Ag_07 said:

The Super Soaker planes (the one that collided with a drone) are from Canada.

Say what you will about Canada and Trudeau but they've sent some pretty sophisticated and important equipment.


Manufactured in CA but isn't that plane from Bridger Aerospace based in Belgrade, MT?

https://bridgeraerospace.com/
Cali has a lease deal that is over 30 years old to get two of them seasonally from Quebec.

'Super Scoopers' firefighting planes arrive from Canada as LA County prepares for peak fire season - ABC7 Los Angeles


So, they were already there because Cali paid for them and Canada didn't just send them out of goodwill? Or is Canada giving them a rebate?
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pdc093 said:

And out of the ashes, a 'bromance' is born....


2 incompetent nimrods that their intelligent citizens want out of office (1 already doing the smart thing and resigning) are coming together now huh? Isn't that neat
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txags92
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HollywoodBQ said:

txags92 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

Mega Lops said:

So just who is Allison Agsten? She is a nutjob who works for the USC Center for Climate Journalism and Communication and admits that "climate change" has exacerbated the fires in LA.

https://instagr.am/p/DEnJH6RPq-e
I'm absolutely, positively dumber for watching that video.

Reminds me of a girl I met in Australia who got her Masters degree in some sort of Climate Change related field. Then, she couldn't find a job. Ultimately she found a job with an NGO, or in academia somewhere, I can't remember.

The woman posting this video's livelihood is dependent on keeping the hoax going. Just like the race grifters - Al Sharpton, Ben Crump, etc.

And I love the fact that she said she left her home just as the looters were showing up but, let's overlook that for now. Classic Kalifornia.
I remember sitting in a seminar session in Halbouty 101 around 1990 with the new dean of the college of geosciences telling all of us that the hot new thing was climate change research. She explicitly told us that if we wanted to get our research funded that we needed to find a way to tie it to climate change. That gravy train that was starting then has only gotten larger in the last 3 and a half decades (God that hurts to write that). When people's entire livelihood is tied to funding based on the belief that climate change is an existential challenge for mankind, they will do whatever they have to do to make sure that climate change continues to be portrayed as an existential threat.
Wow. You were onto the scheme in 1990.

I don't think I knew about it for maybe another 15 years.

Looks like the original use of both Global Warming and Climate Change dates back to 1975.
https://cambioclimatico-regatta.org/index.php/en/latest-news/item/when-global-warming-became-climate-change
That's when I was living in Alaska and was concerned (as any 5 y/o could be) about the next ice age.
I will say I wasn't as on to it as I should have been at the time. I remember thinking it was odd to have a dean encouraging funding to have a political angle, but I wasn't knowledgeable enough at the time to realize what a scam it all was. I even (to my great shame) wrote a book review for extra credit in Dr. Kaiser's conservation of natural resources class that praised Al Gore's vision in Earth in the Balance. To me, my own naivety about some things back then is something I keep in mind when I see the passionately wild-eyed college kids of today out there protesting about things they clearly are ill-informed about and don't understand at all.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

txags92 said:

JFABNRGR said:

Ag_07 said:

The Super Soaker planes (the one that collided with a drone) are from Canada.

Say what you will about Canada and Trudeau but they've sent some pretty sophisticated and important equipment.


Manufactured in CA but isn't that plane from Bridger Aerospace based in Belgrade, MT?

https://bridgeraerospace.com/
Cali has a lease deal that is over 30 years old to get two of them seasonally from Quebec.

'Super Scoopers' firefighting planes arrive from Canada as LA County prepares for peak fire season - ABC7 Los Angeles


So, they were already there because Cali paid for them and Canada didn't just send them out of goodwill? Or is Canada giving them a rebate?
Seems like an existing deal for which Quebec is compensated to me. But why fail to take advantage of a crisis to take credit amirite?
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Newsome thinking he can run in 2028 has just gone up in flames

The libs are waking up




"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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BadMoonRisin said:


Math is bigoted.
Just a couple of days ago, a sanctimonious poster yesterday assured us on these very boards, that these folks were qualified.
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pdc093 said:

And out of the ashes, a 'bromance' is born....


What does one call a pair of ******bags?
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And so it begins.....

It is said the Nero burnt down Rome, so he could rebuild it to his liking...
 
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