Cali fires and wind storms

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In reply to FireAg • 5:44p, 1/9/25
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Mitigation is absolutely the best course of action. Just trying to give as much information as possible with you're help because it was lacking on this thread for a while.
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5:48p, 1/9/25
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I'm surprised many of these homes didn't have the expensive foam ******ant systems that are available. I'm not that educated on them, but sure seems like they would have saved some homes.
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In reply to Build It • 5:59p, 1/9/25
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Build It said:
I'm surprised many of these homes didn't have the expensive foam ******ant systems that are available. I'm not that educated on them, but sure seems like they would have saved some homes.
IIRC, a few of those foams have carcinogens in them. They also have to be mixed from concentrate.

For those reasons, foam is not practical for residential use, minus a ginormus mansion.
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In reply to annie88 • 6:00p, 1/9/25
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There is no ****ing disaster response!!!!!
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In reply to annie88 • 6:02p, 1/9/25
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Such bull****
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Someone posted this a few pages ago.
Great link


10 minutes ago, an alert was "issued in error" for the entire LA county to evacuate by the LA county fire dept.

These folks are ****ing incompetent, and the believers are still on threads defending the incompetence.
Entire ****ing LA county, where people are already depressed and panicked.

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I got this...i packed my meds, laptops, etc and prepped the dog for immediate evacuation...turns out it was a mistake sent to everyone in LA county who has a phone.

Cant wait to see what these wonderful leaders have in store for us next.
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In reply to Sid Farkas • 6:18p, 1/9/25
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Sid Farkas said:


I got this...packed meds, laptops, etc and prepped the dog for immediate evacuation
As posted above, it might have been issued in error. But i'm guessing you know that already.
Stay safe brother!
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In reply to deddog • 6:20p, 1/9/25
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deddog said:
Sid Farkas said:


I got this...packed meds, laptops, etc and prepped the dog for immediate evacuation
As posted above, it might have been issued in error. But i'm guessing you know that already.
Stay safe brother!

Oops...

People need to be fired tonight
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In reply to Sid Farkas • 6:57p, 1/9/25
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I got this...i packed my meds, laptops, etc and prepped the dog for immediate evacuation...turns out it was a mistake sent to everyone in LA county who has a phone.

Cant wait to see what these wonderful leaders have in store for us next.

Utter f***ing incompetence by LA area (and California) leadership
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In reply to Thunderstruck xx • 6:58p, 1/9/25
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Blaming the victim for getting caught in a fire!

I'll feel better in a fire if somebody who looks like me shows up?

There ain't nobody who looks like her.

And I think I'll be happy to take a competent firefighter on scene rather than holding out hope that the firefighter who shows up looks like the Minnesota Vikings logo.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 7:07p, 1/9/25
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ABATTBQ11 said:
FireAg said:
aezmvp said:
Yeah the time that the fire takes to get to the line is typically better spent widening or extending the line rather than fighting back from my understanding. I'll defer to expertise.

That's the textbook tactic…

Now in highly urban areas (and I am stepping beyond my level expertise because my wildfire experiences are limited to rural areas in/around Travis County), I would surmise that since there is no real "bare land" to work with to help widen your defense line, it's nearly impossible until the fire breaks out of an urban area and out in the open where you have ground to work with…it's not like you can start bulldozing neighborhoods, street by street, to build a defense barrier…no time and not practical…

What I'm seeing in these highly urban LA areas makes me think about the Great Chicago Fire of 1871…a bunch of densely-constructed buildings back to back to back with no break from which to set up a defense…


There may be highways and major roads that could be used. Also possibly green belts, but I don't know if LA has anything like that.
Plug this Zillow link in and take a tour of the neighborhood.
https://www.zillow.com/pacific-palisades-los-angeles-ca/

Would really suck to have had your house in escrow and have it burn down before the close.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 7:13p, 1/9/25
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Build It said:
I'm surprised many of these homes didn't have the expensive foam ******ant systems that are available. I'm not that educated on them, but sure seems like they would have saved some homes.
IIRC, a few of those foams have carcinogens in them. They also have to be mixed from concentrate.

For those reasons, foam is not practical for residential use, minus a ginormus mansion.
And in California, they're probably illegal anyway.
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In reply to captkirk • 7:17p, 1/9/25
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captkirk said:
Anybody have video:


Quote:
REPORTER: "Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning?"

MAYOR KAREN BASS: *Silence*

REPORTER: "Do you regret cutting the fire department budget by millions of dollars?"

MAYOR: *Silence*

REPORTER: "Have you nothing to say? @ElonMusk says that you're incompetent. Are you considering your position?"

MAYOR: *Silence, walks away*


Yes, there's a video and it has been posted several times here
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7:21p, 1/9/25
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Karen Bass is another Kamala the way she speaks trying too hard to say something so profound

Put the damn script down and speak like a normal person.
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7:26p, 1/9/25
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Take away their insurance, create a fire, scoop
Up the valueable land at a discount of desperate people.

That'd be an effing evil conspiracy

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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 7:28p, 1/9/25
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HollywoodBQ said:
aggiehawg said:
Build It said:
I'm surprised many of these homes didn't have the expensive foam ******ant systems that are available. I'm not that educated on them, but sure seems like they would have saved some homes.
IIRC, a few of those foams have carcinogens in them. They also have to be mixed from concentrate.

For those reasons, foam is not practical for residential use, minus a ginormus mansion.
And in California, they're probably illegal anyway.
Probably.

The Hubs is 66. he was an AF brat and lived on base throughout his childhood. I know his Dad was exposed to something when he was in Vietnam but every year or so, we'd get a call from someone from DOD asking about The Hubs' health. WTH?

What was going on on Little Rock AFB?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 7:39p, 1/9/25
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aggiehawg said:
HollywoodBQ said:
aggiehawg said:
Build It said:
I'm surprised many of these homes didn't have the expensive foam ******ant systems that are available. I'm not that educated on them, but sure seems like they would have saved some homes.
IIRC, a few of those foams have carcinogens in them. They also have to be mixed from concentrate.

For those reasons, foam is not practical for residential use, minus a ginormus mansion.
And in California, they're probably illegal anyway.
Probably.

The Hubs is 66. he was an AF brat and lived on base throughout his childhood. I know his Dad was exposed to something when he was in Vietnam but every year or so, we'd get a call from someone from DOD asking about The Hubs' health. WTH?

What was going on on Little Rock AFB?
They may have had some chemical munitions going through there to or from Pine Bluff Arsenal.

ETA: They were also the operational control headquarters for 18 Titan II ICBMs in silos around Arkansas.
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it'd be interesting if they developed some sort of air burst artillery shells filled with ******ant to set up fire breaks. especially in unpopulated forested areas.
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7:43p, 1/9/25
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With thousands of structures and autos destroyed there has to be casualties. Why no news of casualties?
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In reply to txags92 • 7:45p, 1/9/25
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Quote:
They may have had some chemical munitions going through there to or from Pine Bluff Arsenal.
Could have been. They were also stationed in South Carolina for a spell.
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 7:48p, 1/9/25
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With thousands of structures and autos destroyed there has to be casualties. Why no news of casualties?
Structure numbers can be estimated. Finding corpses in the middle of a fire isn't that easy. Most places they probably still can't get to.
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7:52p, 1/9/25
This was years ago, but I believe it was LA County fire Dept. that videotaped the training and somebody put a compilation of female recruits. THEY WERE A DISATER The video was accompanied by Benny Hill Theme music which was 100% appropriate. They had NO BUSINESS beng there. The outrage by our worthless/dangerous marxist media was how it made the women look bad. Not that they will kill people !!
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So someone I know in Woodland Hills area claiming a neighbor caught someone with a gas can and lighter trying to start a fire in the hills there called the cops and he was arrested. No description of the guy. I take it with a grain of salt but something seems to definitely be going on out there.
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In reply to TA-OP • 7:55p, 1/9/25
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TA-OP said:
HumpitPuryear said:
With thousands of structures and autos destroyed there has to be casualties. Why no news of casualties?
Structure numbers can be estimated. Finding corpses in the middle of a fire isn't that easy. Most places they probably still can't get to.
I understand that but there are still emergency services going into these neighborhoods and I assume some people going to hospitals. There should be some numbers coming in by now on some casualties or at least number of individuals that are reported as missing. There's nothing on how to find family in shelters and such. Just seems odd this far into the event. I've not been sitting in front of a television today so maybe I've missed it. Lots of news about property damage though.
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In reply to Jock 07 • 7:57p, 1/9/25
I am going to guess the description = most likely newcomer / homeless / mentally ill / CCP sleeper cell / Islamic sleeper cell
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 7:57p, 1/9/25
FWIW, the death toll added another 2 in the last hour. With people describing scenes as apoplectic or as if a bomb was dropped on the city, it will surely rise.
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 8:00p, 1/9/25
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HumpitPuryear said:
TA-OP said:
HumpitPuryear said:
With thousands of structures and autos destroyed there has to be casualties. Why no news of casualties?
Structure numbers can be estimated. Finding corpses in the middle of a fire isn't that easy. Most places they probably still can't get to.
I understand that but there are still emergency services going into these neighborhoods and I assume some people going to hospitals. There should be some numbers coming in by now on some casualties or at least number of individuals that are reported as missing. There's nothing on how to find family in shelters and such. Just seems odd this far into the event. I've not been sitting in front of a television today so maybe I've missed it. Lots of news about property damage though.
Going to be interesting how many people who were living there deeply in debt and upside down on their house who disappear and no remains are ever found in their house.
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In reply to HumpitPuryear • 8:03p, 1/9/25
HumpitPuryear said:
TA-OP said:
HumpitPuryear said:
With thousands of structures and autos destroyed there has to be casualties. Why no news of casualties?
Structure numbers can be estimated. Finding corpses in the middle of a fire isn't that easy. Most places they probably still can't get to.
I understand that but there are still emergency services going into these neighborhoods and I assume some people going to hospitals. There should be some numbers coming in by now on some casualties or at least number of individuals that are reported as missing. There's nothing on how to find family in shelters and such. Just seems odd this far into the event. I've not been sitting in front of a television today so maybe I've missed it. Lots of news about property damage though.


The number I saw was 5. I think the evacuation efforts started with enough time that the body count shouldn't be too horrible, thankfully
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In reply to The Banned • 8:09p, 1/9/25
Up to 7 within the last hour.
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In reply to EX TEXASEX • 8:22p, 1/9/25
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All repugnant *******s.
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