Cali fires and wind storms

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AtticusMatlock
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In reply to 100% Pure Aggie • 12:47a, 1/9/25
100% Pure Aggie said:
AtticusMatlock said:
40% did not.
60% did.
You get what you vote for.


I will take back my impolite personal attack. But completely unbelievably self-centered point of view on your end.
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In reply to Dan Scott • 1:00a, 1/9/25
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Dan Scott said:


damn, a diesel dozer passed CA emissions? no wonder it's burning, all the ice water is in hell
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 1:02a, 1/9/25
AtticusMatlock said:
100% Pure Aggie said:
AtticusMatlock said:
40% did not.
60% did.
You get what you vote for.


I will take back my impolite personal attack. But completely unbelievably self-centered point of view on your end.


Eh - there's truth to what he said. Instead of getting offended maybe wake the **** up.
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In reply to Brother Shamus • 1:07a, 1/9/25
Thousands of people, likely tens of thousands of people are now or will soon be homeless and have lost everything. Poaters on this site posting that they somehow deserved it is disgusting and it demonstrates the kind of people some of you are.
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 1:18a, 1/9/25
AtticusMatlock said:
Thousands of people, likely tens of thousands of people are now or will soon be homeless and have lost everything. Poaters on this site posting that they somehow deserved it is disgusting and it demonstrates the kind of people some of you are.
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A lot of posters on here forget that a solid % of these victims are not godless anti-American liberals who voted for this type of mismanagement. They paint with too broad a brush. Forgive them.
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 1:22a, 1/9/25
AtticusMatlock said:


"But a single ember can travel like 15 miles, across entire sections of mostly concrete cities, and light other sides of the town on fire…all against the strong prevailing winds"
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4:58a, 1/9/25
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I don't care who these people are. These fires are a horrible tragedy and thousands of people are going to have lost everything. It sure seems like some of these fires are being deliberately set. I pray that the authorities can get these fires under control ASAP. This is just heartbreaking to see.
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4:58a, 1/9/25
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Well in true Hollywood fashion jamie lee curtis takes to the tonight show and puts on a performance it truly is sad. California is rotten to the core and they do get to vote and choose regulations that lead to these catastrophes.
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In reply to Mas89 • 5:29a, 1/9/25
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Mas89 said:
I don't understand why they don't have/ use numerous diesel powered water pumps and use the ocean water.
Makes zero sense to me that all these very expensive beach front homes are burning up with " no water " available.
And people keep asking me why I moved from someplace as great as Los Angeles to someplace as crappy as Galveston.

Looks aren't everything.
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In reply to Build It • 5:32a, 1/9/25
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Build It said:
I'll go ahead and speculate it's the Iranians. Because **** them.
The Iranians are mostly in Beverly Hills so it probably wasn't them.

And the Persians are too busy running liquor stores and doing conspicuous consumption to have any time left to be starting fires.
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In reply to Sid Farkas • 5:35a, 1/9/25
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Sid Farkas said:
moonshadows Malibu...site of Sid Farkas' HS senior prom dinner...gone


Mel Gibson's last stop before getting pulled over for 88 in a 55 on PCH that led to the rant about Jews.

https://www.tmz.com/2006/08/01/mels-moonshadows-madness/
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In reply to Dan Scott • 5:39a, 1/9/25
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Dan Scott said:
There are three LAFD helicopters flying around Hollywood sign. They are protecting it or it's on fire
a Persian friend posted a picture of the Hollywood sign on fire but frankly, it looked fake
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In reply to Dan Scott • 5:41a, 1/9/25
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Dan Scott said:
Lots of Jews in Pacific Palisades too if we're playing the conspiracy game
If that's where we're going for conspiracies, Sherman Oaks would be a prime target.
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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 5:48a, 1/9/25
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HollywoodBQ said:
Dan Scott said:
There are three LAFD helicopters flying around Hollywood sign. They are protecting it or it's on fire
a Persian friend posted a picture of the Hollywood sign on fire but frankly, it looked fake


I have seen several that were AI. I haven't seen any confirmation it was on fire
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In reply to Build It • 5:49a, 1/9/25
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Build It said:
It's a mile and half from Pepperdine to Malibu Village which burnt to the ground.
Used to take the IT guys from Pepperdine to eat at Escobar's in Malibu Village, frequently.

Unfortunately Escobar's didn't survive after the China virus.
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5:52a, 1/9/25
I am 56 years old. Every year that Ican remember, there have been forest fires in Cali. I am amazed so many people think this is some sort of recent phenomena. It is akin to someone living in New Orleans or Florida acting stunned when a hurricane hits (or the TGC, for that matter). It's part and parcel of choosing to live there. Tragic, no doubt, but not unexpected or novel.
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5:59a, 1/9/25
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I hope he's right.

Trump has called on Newsom to resign.



The important sanctuary city funding had to be prioritized. A playground of Marxist priorities takes its toll eventually even on the ruling class.

Never, ever vote for a Democrat.
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6:11a, 1/9/25
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Unbelievable. $360+ an hour. Just a reminder that California took 38 days to count presidential/congressional votes, as well.

293K are under mandatory evacuation orders as of a few hours ago. Zero percent contained.
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:27a, 1/9/25
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That was a solid rant by Adam Carolla.

One of the things he got on to with the Carsen Daly swimming pool story is how many of the houses in LA have been remodeled and have not had to meet modern building codes.

When they go to rebuild, everything will have to be up to modern codes which will make everything painful and more expensive.

My $1.1M mansion was insured for about $300,000 rebuild cost and the land was valued at $800,000.

It'll be interesting to see what folks were insured for versus what the rebuild cost is. Especially over the 3 year timeline that Carolla laid out, if they can even get a rebuild approved.

In case you missed it, this is a solid rant.

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In reply to bam02 • 7:22a, 1/9/25
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ttu_85 said:
The Weather Service is saying the strongest winds will be out of the North East tonight. Some gusting to 70 mph. This is going to be a giant mess.


I had just assumed all these winds were coming from the west off of the ocean. I'm hoping this is good news in that if it's coming from the northeast the fires will have to stop when they get to the coastline at least.
West winds in Cali are moist west of the Sierra Nevadas. Fires are not a problem when this is the case. Santa Anna's are easterlies running down and compressing off those same Sierra Navadas making them dry and hot as hell.

Texas has much the same situation but reversed. East and Southeast winds moist thanks to the Gulf of Mexico and westerlies off the Rockies very dry. You want fires in Austin have 2 weeks of Westerly winds in August. Super dangerous and very rare.
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7:34a, 1/9/25
Amazing excuses being thrown out now as to why they aren't using seawater more.

Well the saltwater is corrosive to equipment

The saltwater kills natural vegetation at the roots


It's like they've never thought to rinse out equipment with freshwater once the task is completed


Or okay so it kills natural vegetation, how's that fire treating it?


But they're protecting the smelt that is officially listed as extinct


The clown show has really gone off the cliff
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 7:37a, 1/9/25
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HollywoodBQ said:
That was a solid rant by Adam Carolla.

One of the things he got on to with the Carsen Daly swimming pool story is how many of the houses in LA have been remodeled and have not had to meet modern building codes.

When they go to rebuild, everything will have to be up to modern codes which will make everything painful and more expensive.

My $1.1M mansion was insured for about $300,000 rebuild cost and the land was valued at $800,000.

It'll be interesting to see what folks were insured for versus what the rebuild cost is. Especially over the 3 year timeline that Carolla laid out, if they can even get a rebuild approved.

In case you missed it, this is a solid rant.



I can speak to this. This is an unintended consequence of Prop13 which changed how property taxes and re-assements are levied. I could write pages on how in the 70's people were being taxed out of their homes (to some degree the same is happening in TX now). So the result was to cap reassements to the purchase price and values could rise only a max of 2% annually tied to the CPI. The end result is homes are under taxed and starve the local and state government of funds which has led to an over taxation on businesses and has lead to CA experiencing boom and bust cycles.

To HBQ's point, a side effect is how improvements are taxed. Essentially any new add on SQ is taxed and capped at current market rate. But.... if you only remodel that sort of flies under the radar for permits. Which is why you'll see shanty looking homes next to mansions.

When you go to pull a permit if the total improvement value is >50% of the value of the structure that is referred to as a Substantial Improvement. Consequently if you're doing damage repairs and the total in damages is >50% of the value of the structure of the home it's considered Substantially Damaged. (This applies to flooding damage as well).

When this occurs the ENTIRE structure must be brought up to code and the cost can explode. This is why if you're flooded and in the 100yr flood plain and have been Sub Dammed you have to physically lift/elevate the home above the 100yr flood plain.

Now IF these homes have wildfire coverage they will receive the max the policy allows BUT it may not be calculated correctly for current rebuild costs, because the assessed value was never reported to either the assessors office or the carrier. This they are under insured. Unless the person said, i want to pay for higher coverage because they knew the policy couldnt cover the rebuild cost. But insurance is usually something people under pay for and roll the dice theyll never need it. Same for flood, if you do not have FEMA flood insurance you're SOL. But the feds do not provide separate wildfire coverage like they do for floods.

Insurance carriers in recent years have been canceling wildfire riders and theres a very high probability the majority of homes lost will have zero coverage even if covered by a homeowners policy. They'll be denied.

Before the last fire is extinguished, this will be a major news story since 99.9% of homes will be a total loss.

Edit: the above is for normal homes.

Those on the coast that have to deal with the Coastal Commission, they are truly ****ed. They will not be allowed to rebuild. They may own the lots, but the CC can deny permits. Wow, this is going to get so spicy.
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In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 7:45a, 1/9/25

Just eat up with DEI and incompetence.
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7:45a, 1/9/25
Dice take

"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 7:51a, 1/9/25
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:







Fail up continues its legacy…
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7:52a, 1/9/25
pure example of hirings based on DEI vs competence.........Great for PR and making the Liberal left happy..,..Disaster in a crisis when you need real planning, preparation, and critical real time execution.....
I own rent free space in TPS's head....
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8:09a, 1/9/25
Ya'll that rant with Adam Corolla is spot on in many ways. The Rich AF Californians are about to find out A: what govt. regulations are B: That their investment is lost C: California is under orders with the Bigger Plan for property ownership to be a thing of the past

This land, just like Hawaii, is being confiscated and "Natural" disasters and regulations are leading the way.
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In reply to AlaskanAg99 • 8:09a, 1/9/25
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Excellent points/posts. Thx.
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8:19a, 1/9/25
California will declare force majeure, blame climate change, and demand federal aid. Insurance companies on the hook will also be bailed out by taxpayers like us.

If we are lucky there will be some transparency to understand the financial burden/bailout.
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In reply to FobTies • 8:26a, 1/9/25
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Not that I don't believe they will try that, but I don't think they have time to get Joe Biden to send it, and there's no FEMA money left right now thanks to his administration. Much of the $$$ damage/loss are also fabulously wealthy folks homes, even if they were playing the California insurance scam and are harmed, I don't think the Dems pushing for millions for them will play well.
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