I wonder how many of the diversity hires will quit after dealing with this disaster. They're probably like "I signed up to sit around for 99% of the time with the occasional house fire...I'm outta here!"Logos Stick said:California lost a generation of qualified white men via openly discriminating against them.
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) January 9, 2025
Lost a bunch more during the Covid vaccine purges. A buddy of mine was a SEAL, he left the FD rather than take vaxx.
Turns out, you need these guys when disaster comes.
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Not one damn one of them. Why should they? Their gravy train isn't ending. They are still getting paid.Quote:
I wonder how many of the diversity hires will quit after dealing with this disaster. They're probably like "I signed up to sit around for 99% of the time with the occasional house fire...I'm outta here!"
Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
Man, Derek Jeter has really let himself go...Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
Not so much for any precious metals in ashes, but the dump truck side gig reminded me of something similar. I was looking at purchasing a house and RV park on the Bolivar Peninsula and this older couple were the sellers. He was like 80 and she was in her 60s. He had one of those smaller dump trucks, I call them "city" dump trucks, 6 yard or 8 yard I guess. He told me after one of the hurricanes how much money he made. Right after the storm, a lot of companies came in with bigger dump trucks and made a killing. But pretty quickly they did their deals and left for other work. Then he and one or two smaller outfits were all that was left and still plenty of work. He told me what he made per month for almost a year and it was a ton of money.AlaskanAg99 said:
A great side gig will be owning a dump truck and a front end loader. Can't imagine how much personal wealth is sitting in those ashes when it comes to precious metals
It's funny you think firefighters sit around 99% of the time.Prosperdick said:I wonder how many of the diversity hires will quit after dealing with this disaster. They're probably like "I signed up to sit around for 99% of the time with the occasional house fire...I'm outta here!"Logos Stick said:California lost a generation of qualified white men via openly discriminating against them.
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) January 9, 2025
Lost a bunch more during the Covid vaccine purges. A buddy of mine was a SEAL, he left the FD rather than take vaxx.
Turns out, you need these guys when disaster comes.
Gig 'Em
OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
Gig 'Em
Common sense, if you have any, will tell you that the hiring criteria for almost any job should be based on merit and other qualities related to actually being able to perform. When you factor in being gay, female, and/or a minority as part of the process then you certainly invite scrutiny, at the very least. We are witnessing the results right now.
So their entire defense is the winds were too intense. Again, the fact that you are dependent on a response plan that is completely out of your control is so problematic.
Never heard of the Peter Principle?
Her Bobblehead is driving me nuts
Anonymous Source said:OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
The hiring should be based on merit alone....DEI is never about hiring the best. This is beyond disputeAnonymous Source said:OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
Anonymous Source said:OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
If your source is one thousand and you limit that by saying I will only choose from the 5 percent deviants in my original one thousand. Have you increased or decreased the likelihood of choosing the most qualified candidate?
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
LOL.Anonymous Source said:OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
Look at LA right now.
Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
It's not their sexuality and gender that makes them less qualified. It's the fact that the system that they rose through was elevating to these higher and higher positions because of their sexuality and gender. we have to ask if the career path would have been the same in a city where these two data points were seen as a neutral fact instead of a main reason to promote.
It will only be great if you have a dump truck made after 2017 or whichever year they determined you could own
Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
Honestly, the quality of the firefighters would not have made a difference in most of these fires. Even the best firefighters in the world could not have stopped these fires with no water in the hydrants and the air assets grounded by high winds. The problem where DEI comes in is that it shows a lack of focus on the problems that really mattered. If you had time to work on DEI programs, you had time to make a plan to overcome the lack of hydrant water. If you had time to work on DEI programs, you had time to come up with a way to use seawater pumps in emergencies like this. The lack of water to the hydrants was not some brand new issue that they didn't know might happen. Focusing on DEI instead of those other things was a misplaced priority.
Agreed
DEI is about hiring someone because they have attributes that have nothing to do with their ability to do the job they are being hired to do. It is like hiring someone to be a pilot because they like to play with toy trains.samurai_science said:The hiring should be based on merit alone....DEI is never about hiring the best. This is beyond disputeAnonymous Source said:OK. Tell me how they're less qualified. Show your work.bam02 said:Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
That's not the point. The fact is her priorities were DEI initiatives. This is utterly stupid. That should not be a priority when it comes to safety.
But you know that.
Not even the Babylon Bee or Monty Python can come up with crazier **** than real life living in California in 2025. Just absolutely tragic how liberals ruin everything they touch.MarkTwain said:
Amazing excuses being thrown out now as to why they aren't using seawater more.
Well the saltwater is corrosive to equipment
The saltwater kills natural vegetation at the roots
It's like they've never thought to rinse out equipment with freshwater once the task is completed
Or okay so it kills natural vegetation, how's that fire treating it?
But they're protecting the smelt that is officially listed as extinct
The clown show has really gone off the cliff
You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job. You don't get promoted up through the ranks without recommendations of your peers and supervisorsbam02 said:Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
Gig 'Em
I dare anyone to top this for 'lesbian firefighters are doing great.' (Note, I didn't spot any actual lesbians, but I'm not a DEI expert).
The LAFD are using women’s handbags to hold water to put out fires.
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 9, 2025
What is going on??? pic.twitter.com/GMAoWtbvB8
That's really sad. Enjoy your smelt you d bag liberals
Anonymous Source said:You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job.bam02 said:Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
Uhh. I hate to break it to you…but this is LA we're talmbout.
Anonymous Source said:You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job.bam02 said:Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
This is easily falsifiable. We see government agencies all over the place that are run by people who seem to have no idea how to do the job.
In the private sector, there is a much better chance 22+ years of experience means something. In the public sector, that can never be taken for granted.
txags92 said:
Honestly, the quality of the firefighters would not have made a difference in most of these fires. Even the best firefighters in the world could not have stopped these fires with no water in the hydrants and the air assets grounded by high winds. The problem where DEI comes in is that it shows a lack of focus on the problems that really mattered. If you had time to work on DEI programs, you had time to make a plan to overcome the lack of hydrant water. If you had time to work on DEI programs, you had time to come up with a way to use seawater pumps in emergencies like this. The lack of water to the hydrants was not some brand new issues that they didn't know might happen. Focusing on DEI instead of those other things was a misplaced priority.
22 years in a municipal agency means you survived a war of attrition that typically selects for attributes other than merit.The Banned said:Anonymous Source said:You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job.bam02 said:Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
This is easily falsifiable. We see government agencies all over the place that are run by people who seem to have no idea how to do the job.
In the private sector, there is a much better chance 22+ years of experience means something. In the public sector, that can never be taken for granted.
I can easily see the results of how they prepared and are managing this event, tied to their initial priorities of DEI hires vs competency hires in the department.....Anonymous Source said:You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job. You don't get promoted up through the ranks without recommendations of your peers and supervisorsbam02 said:Yet you think it's OK for them to use this criteria as part of the hiring process in the first place?Anonymous Source said:I don't get this. Am I supposed to believe that someone who has 22 years on the job and rose through the ranks starting as a Firefighter, then Paramedic, Engineer, Fire Inspector, Captain I, Captain II, Battalion Chief, Assistant Chief, Deputy Chief, Chief Deputy, and now Fire Chief is not qualified for the job because they're gay?Raiderjay said:This is the leadership team at the Los Angeles Fire Department. pic.twitter.com/x8c0tH5MKC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 8, 2025
If I need the fire department, I'm not standing out front checking sexual orientation before I let them get to work.
I dont care what their orientation is per your original point, but their actions, priorities, and outcomes are pretty telling in their abilities, regardless of how long they have been in the dept.....
I own rent free space in TPS's head....
Nm.
just brutal....
I guess the good news is that the view along PCH is going to be a lot less obstructed with homes for the next decade or so.
A friend in LA just took this video pic.twitter.com/WJBWCHmCUs
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 8, 2025
The Malibu waterfront, one of the most expensive properties in the United States, has largely disappeared. pic.twitter.com/cC3ou7E2Mz
— Sprinter Observer (@SprinterObserve) January 9, 2025
“Real life apocalypse” 😭 pic.twitter.com/HxNLFi8ZRS
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) January 9, 2025
Sunset Boulevard
— Science girl (@gunsnrosesgirl3) January 9, 2025
pic.twitter.com/NniOff6LmE
I guess the good news is that the view along PCH is going to be a lot less obstructed with homes for the next decade or so.
Tailgate88 said:Not even the Babylon Bee or Monty Python can come up with crazier **** than real life living in California in 2025. Just absolutely tragic how liberals ruin everything they touch.MarkTwain said:
Amazing excuses being thrown out now as to why they aren't using seawater more.
Well the saltwater is corrosive to equipment
The saltwater kills natural vegetation at the roots
It's like they've never thought to rinse out equipment with freshwater once the task is completed
Or okay so it kills natural vegetation, how's that fire treating it?
But they're protecting the smelt that is officially listed as extinct
The clown show has really gone off the cliff
Vegetation will grow back in time. However, if you dump a bunch of saltwater on an area, that's even more costly to remediate, though it can be done. And if you can't get some kind of vegetation established on a hillside, hello mudslides.
That was true if your years in started in the late 80s. Now? Not so much.Quote:
You don't do 22+ years in the fire department without being able to do the job.
Burrs under the saddle get sent either somewhere else or if no lateral positions are available, up.
Now the initial promotions to lieutenant, for example, require (or used to) takin a written exam. Can they take a test well? Not the same as leadership during an actual emergency and crisis.
The Hubs once had a female supervisor who claimed she was allergic to smoke, for instance. So WTH was she doing at a fire station and not downtown pushing paper? Needed it on her resume, had a mentor who was in position to direct her career. So she was sent out to ARF where there are not many fires if at all. Mostly medical runs for people becoming ill either on a plane or in the terminal. Even then she'd sit in her truck and not supervise anything.
I'll wager the campers are all back on the PCH long before anyone gets a permit to rebuild.
What do you think the odds are that the Malibu beachfront homes ever get a permit?
What do you think the odds are that the Malibu beachfront homes ever get a permit?
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