Minneapolis getting Hot?

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Wildmen03
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oh no said:

this marxist intentionally draws Minnesota into political theatre and then states to the masses, "let me be clear: Minnesota will not be drawn into political theatre".

The left - causes chaos
Also the left - Look at all this chaos!

Adam Corolla paraphrased.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
akm91
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So the gov is lying (what else is new) about why he and the mayor are being investigated.
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I didn't know that Target was a Minnesota company.

So Target might be funding some this indirectly by this means:

The Target Foundation (evolving from the Dayton Foundation, established in 1918) continues the company's tradition of giving back, donating 5% of profits to communitiesoften focused on Minnesota initiatives.

Target is fringe budlightable at any given time.

Why not create budlight companies when they incorporate in non-participating states? Target, move to a red state or be budlighted to bankruptcy or k-mart status in the 90's.
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You could tell the white women in the suburbs that Target funds the Islamic State and 75% would still be in there blowing their husbands money
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IndividualFreedom
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in regards to the subpoenas, one would think that they, the FBI, know the answers to the questions they have for those two knuckleheads.

I have a feeling that they will not be going to Bondi's desk for much longer.
will25u
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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Ellis Wyatt
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TRM said:



"Journalists" do not provide reconnaissance.

This is Lemon's attempt at Jon Leibowitz's clown nose on/clown nose off routine. Intelligent people see right through it.
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Let's dig into the claim that lemonhead makes:

Claim- native born population commits 2x the crime of immigrant

1. Blue states and cities dont collect immigration status- new York, cali, Boston etc don not inquire to the immigration status of people they arrest. We are missing a rather large chunk of data
Further, it appears that because immigration status is not tracked, that all crime is inherently reported as native.
2. Crime in general is underreported. That's mostly a political choice. We know for a fact cities like Washington DC and Austin do not report all their crime because they've changed what a crime is
3. Every illegal has broken a federal statute of some variety
4. Most of lemon's point is from a Cato study showing a lower rate of crime committed by illegal immigrants than the native population. However, other studies how found the opposite, showing that illegals commit crimes at a higher rate than the native population (fair, cprc). The Cato study admits that 48 states either dont track immigration status or have records so poor they can't be relied upon.
5. Its an irrelevant point. The criminal status of said immigrant does not matter if they are here illegally. Yes, trump said he'd go after violent criminal first but he certainly never made the claim only. We have no moral obligation to keep anyone illegal. In fact, id argue the federal govt has the moral obligation to send any illegal they come across home.


In conclusion, anyone puking out the crime rate talking point should be shamed
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Wildmen03 said:




Finally.

I believe it was President Reagan who said

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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.

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5. Its an irrelevant point. The criminal status of said immigrant does not matter if they are here illegally. Yes, trump said he'd go after violent criminal first but he certainly never made the claim only. We have no moral obligation to keep anyone illegal. In fact, id argue the federal govt has the moral obligation to send any illegal they come across home.



None of us should be surprised that Lemon is advocating for keeping child molesters here. No doubt he considers them his brethren.
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oh no
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Don Lemon reprimands the man he's trying to interview by interrupting and proclaiming the "FACTS" are that:

1) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE are US Citizens and
2) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE have no criminal history


Can someone point me to the data where he's getting his "FACTS"?

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TRM said:



I voted for this.
Who?mikejones!
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I look up 1 the other day.

Something like 150-170 americans have been caught up in the nation wide ice enforcement.

Out of 390000 or so deportations. Its like a 99.97 success rate.
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oh no said:

Don Lemon reprimands the man he's trying to interview by interrupting and proclaiming the "FACTS" are that:

1) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE are US Citizens and
2) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE have no criminal history


Can someone point me to the data where he's getting his "FACTS"?



He's lying.
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Who?mikejones! said:

I look up 1 the other day.

Something like 150-170 americans have been caught up in the nation wide ice enforcement.

Out of 390000 or so deportations. Its like a 99.97 success rate.

but do those numbers count, for example, a US citizen employed at Target who assaults an ICE agent for trying to go into the store to buy a toothbrush? ...or a US citizen transtifa anarchist who gets popped in the eye for assaulting ICE agents?
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Not sure. It wasnt the impression I got but maybe. Number comes from pro publica and they say it was people who ice mistakenly arrested solely because of alleged illegal status
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Hey, we only execute .03% of not guilty people.

Not quite the same thing, but if I were in that small group and ended up in some detention somewhere, I'd be slightly ticked off.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Not sure. It wasnt the impression I got but maybe. Number comes from pro publica and they say it was people who ice mistakenly arrested solely because of alleged illegal status

Given pro publica's leftist slant, it is most likely due to people being in the wrong place at the wrong time. ICE shows up and detains everyone until each person is identified.

Once ICE determines someone is a citizen, or legal resident with no criminal issues, they're released.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I think that'd be okay and theres definitely some avenue of recourse for you.

But that doesnt mean the ice operations should be suspended.

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Who?mikejones! said:

I think that'd be okay and theres definitely some avenue of recourse for you.

But that doesnt mean the ice operations should be suspended.



I mean I might feel slightly better if I hit a mini-lottery once I got released.
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There's been a few wrongful arrests. But if the locals would detain then and hand them over then you wouldn't have ICE going and having to find them and risk the mistakes even when few and far between.
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oh no said:

Don Lemon reprimands the man he's trying to interview by interrupting and proclaiming the "FACTS" are that:

1) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE are US Citizens and
2) most of the people being picked up and detained by ICE have no criminal history

Can someone point me to the data where he's getting his "FACTS"?

Here let me get those for you:















akm91
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Hey, we only execute .03% of not guilty people.

You're assuming all of the ssmall # of citizens arrested are unlike the guy in MN that was harboring illegals.
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How many of US citizens arrested were not mistaken identity, but were interfering with federal officers in protest or otherwise had a non immigration federal felony warrant?
HoustonAggie11
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you can blame Joe Biden and the dem is you are detained briefly by ICE. You will survive.
oh no
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oh no said:

Who?mikejones! said:

I look up 1 the other day.

Something like 150-170 americans have been caught up in the nation wide ice enforcement.

Out of 390000 or so deportations. Its like a 99.97 success rate.

but do those numbers count, for example, a US citizen employed at Target who assaults an ICE agent for trying to go into the store to buy a toothbrush? ...or a US citizen transtifa anarchist who gets popped in the eye for assaulting ICE agents?

100% sure those numbers include tren de aragua member, human trafficking, wife beating "Maryland Dad" that libs love soo much.
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Hey, we only execute .03% of not guilty people.

Not quite the same thing, but if I were in that small group and ended up in some detention somewhere, I'd be slightly ticked off.

Spare me the outrage - how many people get arrested today for felonies and are never found guilty in court? I bet it's higher than .03%
Wildmen03
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MouthBQ98 said:

How many of US citizens arrested were not mistaken identity, but were interfering with federal officers in protest or otherwise had a non immigration federal felony warrant?


Also if ICE goes into a domicile, etc. looking for illegals, it's not uncommon to detain everyone present until everyone is sorted or the illegal is arrested. I'm sure the left uses "detain" like "arrest" when making arguments, but they're not nearly the same.
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Wildmen03 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

How many of US citizens arrested were not mistaken identity, but were interfering with federal officers in protest or otherwise had a non immigration federal felony warrant?


Also if ICE goes into a domicile, etc. looking for illegals, it's not uncommon to detain everyone present until everyone is sorted or the illegal is arrested. I'm sure the left uses "detain" like "arrest" when making arguments, but they're not nearly the same.
And again, as pointed out above, the total lack of cooperation from "sanctuary cities" is causing DHS/ICE to chase these criminals down in US citizen's homes instead of just picking them up from a jail cell. The root cause of the chaos in Minnesota is Minnesota, not ICE.
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